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Re: Positive news (was: Re: [css-ui] Agenda request: Revive directional focus navigation properties

From: Vickers, Mark <Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:15:53 +0000
To: Stephen Zilles <szilles@adobe.com>
CC: Philipp Hoschka <ph@w3.org>, Leif Arne Storset <lstorset@opera.com>, Tantek Çelik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>, Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>, "public-web-and-tv@w3.org IG" <public-web-and-tv@w3.org>
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OK, great! So, how can the IG help get the test cases done? This would be a new task for the IG, but I think it would make sense.

Guiseppe: Is there an Opera version for the Mac/PC with the APIs to code against?

Thanks,
mav

On Jun 20, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Stephen Zilles <szilles@adobe.com>
 wrote:

> Mark,
> The accessibility point was raised in the CSS discussion on the topic. The plan was never to eliminate the feature, but to move it to CSS UI 4.  CSS UI 3 is in CR and needs to get out. That is why the test cases are so significant.
> 
> Steve Zilles
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vickers, Mark [mailto:Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:47 AM
> To: Philipp Hoschka
> Cc: Leif Arne Storset; Tantek Çelik; Giuseppe Pascale; www-style@w3.org; public-web-and-tv@w3.org IG
> Subject: Re: Positive news (was: Re: [css-ui] Agenda request: Revive directional focus navigation properties
> 
> That's good. FYI, I'd also think that these APIs would be of interest for certain accessibility devices which need UDLR navigation, but I'd defer to the accessibility experts on that.
> 
> On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Philipp Hoschka <ph@w3.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> From what I understand, the decision for delaying those properties has been overturned.
>> 
>> They'll stay in css 3 ui but will still be marked at risk.
>> 
>> Tests will be contributed within a month.
>> 
>> Good thing that the TV community made their voice heard
>> 
>> On 6/19/2013 5:04 PM, Leif Arne Storset wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 09:11:13 +0200, Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:36:18 +0200, Tantek Çelik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Leif Arne Storset <lstorset@opera.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Opera wants to revive CSS3 Basic User Interface's directional 
>>>>>> focus navigation properties: nav-up, nav-down, nav-right, nav-left 
>>>>>> [0]. I'd like to get a resolution for that on Wednesday's telcon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Glad to hear that Opera is willing to put time and effort into 
>>>>> advancing directional nav.
>>>>> However, I don't know of any new information that merits any new 
>>>>> discussion of this topic.
>>>>> See below for details/questions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Reasons: there are several implementations (Presto-based Opera and 
>>>>>> WebKit-based Samsung and LG browsers), they are in active use,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are any of these downloadable / testable on the open web?
>>>>> 
>>>>> URLs to simulator downloads etc.?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our simulator are freely available
>>>> http://business.opera.com/solutions/tv/emulator
>>> 
>>> The Smart TV Alliance also has an emulator based on WebKit:
>>> 
>>> http://www.smarttv-alliance.org/Markets/Developers.aspx
>>> 
>>> It's available for Mac, Windows and Ubuntu Linux. (Note that 
>>> VirtualBox should be installed first; then the emulator will show up 
>>> in its console. You don't need to start Eclipse to use it.)
>>> 
>>>> Opera have had support for it in presto for quite some time, just 
>>>> try the test below with any 12.x (use shift+arrows) 
>>>> http://miketaylr.com/pres/framsia/spatnav.html
>>>> 
>>>> Finally there are plenty of TVs in the shops in europe that support it.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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