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RE: [css4-background] background-position-x and background-position-y or logical directions

From: Sylvain Galineau <sylvaing@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:59:04 +0000
To: Marat Tanalin | tanalin.com <mtanalin@yandex.ru>, Florian Rivoal <florianr@opera.com>
CC: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
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[Marat Tanalin:]
> By the way, very important factor is that background-position-x/-y are
> supported by IE which is the browser that's updated most slowly.
> Considering Microsoft's current tactics to release new versions of IE
> solely for new versions of Windows (no IE>8 for Windows XP, no IE>9 for
> Windows Vista), IE will continue to update slowly and therefore be painful
> and blocking new features to be widely used in the wild.

IE's lower uptake is increasingly true in a relative sense vs. an absolute one.
IE now auto-updates which results in IE7 dropping off at a very fast rate this 
year. IE9 adoption is also fast, as is Windows 7's. But none of this is relevant
here: specific browser market shares, market share trends or update schemes
should not be a factor in defining an interoperable solution for this CSS feature 
or any other. 

> So there is huge difference between adding new feature (variables) and
> reusing existing one (background-position-x/-y) supported in all IE
> versions. Any non-IE browser will be updated quite quickly, and we could
> easily start using background-position-x/-y, say, in a year. On the
> contrary, we will in fact not be able to use variables until they are
> implemented in IE which updates very slowly unlike any other browser.

In other words: as this issue is true for any new CSS feature and has nothing 
to do with any particular proposal it has no real relevance to what we should
do. CSS features will be around far longer than any browser, even IE6.
Received on Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:59:43 UTC

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