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Re: [css3-lists] Published as WD!

From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 18:47:54 -0700
Message-ID: <4DE448CA.6040505@inkedblade.net>
To: www-style@w3.org
On 05/26/2011 05:52 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Brad Kemper<brad.kemper@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Overall, I like where it's going. I've started giving it a more thorough read, and here are my thoughts so far on the new bits:
>
> Thanks for the review, Brad!
>
>
>> On May 24, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
>>> 1. Split the 'outside' value for list-style-position into two values,
>>> 'outside' and 'hanging', reflecting the two classes of outside
>>> positioning that browsers actually do (Webkit and IE's behavior is
>>> close to the new 'outside', while Firefox and Opera are close to the
>>> new 'hanging').  'hanging' attaches the marker to the outside of the
>>> text, while 'outside' attaches it to the box, and makes it draw some
>>> things (like 'direction') from the parent element.
>>
>> • Is there any author benefit to this difference? If not, we should
>> just pick one and let the inconsistent UAs converge on one behavior,
>> and call it 'outside'. So far, the differences seem rather esoteric
>> to me.
>
> We need 'outside', as it plays better with mixed-direction content.
> Fantasai says that 'hanging' is useful.  A 'hanging' marker, for
> example, pays attention to 'text-align'.  (So does 'inside', but
> 'hanging' doesn't mess with the alignment of the content.)

I'm actually skeptical about the usefulness of 'hanging', and
prefer 'outside', assuming it has reasonable float-impact behavior.
I can't think of a use case for it, other than backwards-compat with
default HTML list styling.

The ability to match the ::marker's direction to that of the parent
element (rather than the list-item element) is important. However,
I don't think the layout model should be conflated with this particular
issue.

~fantasai
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