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RE: [css3-speech] reading list-style markers

From: Belov, Charles <Charles.Belov@sfmta.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:23:23 -0700
Message-ID: <E17F75B6E86AE842A57B4534F82D0376CD2AEF@MTAMAIL.muni.sfgov.org>
To: "Daniel Weck" <daniel.weck@gmail.com>
Cc: "www-style list" <www-style@w3.org>
Daniel Weck wrote on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:43 PM
> 
> Good point, thanks !
> 
> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-speech/#lists

Confirming I agree with your additional edits.  I believe it is quite
clear what is expected.

Hope this helps,
Charles Belov
SFMTA Webmaster 


> On 7 Jun 2011, at 20:20, Belov, Charles wrote:
> 
> > Daniel Weck wrote on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 1:28 AM
> >>> On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:06, Belov, Charles wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Even if CSS does not dictate how to read the different 
> levels, I'd 
> >>>> still like to see something explicitly requiring or at least 
> >>>> recommending that the user-agent allow the user to differentiate 
> >>>> beginnings and endings of levels in some manner.
> >>>>
> >>>> "For these list item styles, the user-agent defines
> >> (possibly based
> >>>> on user preferences) what equivalent phrase is spoken or
> >> what audio
> >>>> cue is played. List items with graphical bullets are therefore 
> >>>> announced appropriately in an implementation- dependent manner."]
> >>>>
> >>>> does not appear to reference levels at all.
> >>>>
> >>
> >> I added:
> >> "For hierarchical lists structures, it is recommended that 
> >> user-agents announce the nesting depth of list items."
> >>
> >> ...which I think is loose-enough to cover various begin/end 
> >> announcement styles for list items.
> >>
> >> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-speech/#lists
> >
> > It works for me.  Good solution, thanks.
> >
> > There appears to be a minor typo.  I would have written "For 
> > hierarchical list structures, it is recommended that user-agents 
> > announce the nesting
> >
> > depth of list items." (singular "list")
> >
> > I'm thinking this might belong in the preceding paragraph 
> rather than 
> > specifically under disc, circle, square.  Typically, if these are 
> > ordered lists, change in level may be indicated visually by 
> changing 
> > numeric style.
> > However, if when changing levels we switch from upper-alpha to 
> > lower-alpha, or from Arabic to Roman numerals, there would 
> not be any 
> > change in how the item letters or numbers are read aloud, so some 
> > indication of the nesting depth would still be needed.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Charles Belov
> > SFMTA Webmaster
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Daniel Weck
> daniel.weck@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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