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Re: [css3-lists] Published as WD!

From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:51:17 -0700
Message-ID: <CAAWBYDBfpixxh+AcGPNHjBwc5xhT-d67ipiKdHJzLT5xGktTQw@mail.gmail.com>
To: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Cc: "Aharon (Vladimir) Lanin" <aharon@google.com>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>, Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:24 PM, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net> wrote:
> On 07/19/2011 11:57 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
>>  Aharon Lanin wrote:
>>> 4. Under the current proposal, is there currently any way to get the
>>> marker placed horizontally flush against the "start" side relative to
>>> the *list item*'s direction, as list-item-position:hanging would have
>>> done? Sometimes, apparently, people do want the markers to switch
>>> sides in a mixed-direction list.
>>
>> No.  I did have a 'hanging' value that would do this, but we dropped
>> it due to lack of use-cases.  Can you give examples of places where
>> people actually want this, or the behavior is clearly reasonably
>> attractive?  (This is roughly the current behavior of Firefox and
>> Opera with outside list markers.)
>
> s/we/I/ since that was not a WG decision. Note also that we have explicit
> resolutions on this exact issue stating that "list-item-position: outside"
> places the marker on the start side of the list-item based on the
> list-item's directionality.

I couldn't find any such resolutions by searching my archives.


>>> Now, two small proposals:
>>>
>>> 5. Is there any objection to HTML5 specifying in the default style
>>> sheet li {text-align:match-parent;}? I have suggested this in the
>>> past, and http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10824 is still
>>> open for this purpose.
>>
>> Is this actually required anymore?  Outside markers now pay attention
>> to the parent's direction without relying on text-align at all (it's
>> part of the details of "position:marker").  Was there any other
>> use-case for match-parent?
>
> Note that he wrote 'text-align: match-parent', which has very little to do
> with the list marker's position. Different issue. I don't see a problem
> with this suggestion, but it's not a css3-lists issue. It's an HTML5/CSS3
> Text issue.

I know what he wrote, I just got confused by the bug reference, as it
mixes up talking about both markers and list content alignment.

~TJ
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