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RE: [css3-text] emphasis dots used with ruby

From: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp>
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 23:04:07 -0500
To: "Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu" <kennyluck@w3.org>
CC: WWW Style <www-style@w3.org>
Message-ID: <A592E245B36A8949BDB0A302B375FB4E0AA8CACE7C@MAILR001.mail.lan>
> I thought that you don't want to address the "ruby with emphasis dots"
> issue is CSS3 (which makes sense since this is indeed an edge case), but then the only
> reasonable way to handle this is to leave it unspecified.
> IIRC, CSS2.1 leaves several situations unspecified for forward compatibility.

I have to admit that our research did not cover Manga (Japanese comics) market well enough. I have contacts with publishers through a few organizations and have several friends in publishers, but unfortunately nobody there works on Manga.

By your feedback, I talked with people in Manga industry, and figured out that such situation is pretty common in printed Manga books. My assumption before that was that it was not common (I think I wrote so), so that changed the priority.

What was difficult to determine was how to handle line spacing, but that was clarified by the interviews, so I think we have a good level of understanding to spec it out.

> Now that you specify it. Chances are that it will be a feature at risk :)

As fantasai pointed out, the last statement allows the UA to be backward compatible with previous ED.

> I just uploaded a new picture found in magna -> http://bit.ly/gf6QEC Notice that on the
> right the emphasis dots are not aligned, while on the left they are. So this is indeed
> complicated.

Thank you again for the picture. I understand variations exist, but I believe they wouldn't complain if CSS3 Text doesn't support all variations. Like other features in CSS3 Text, we're trying to cover only the most common scenario, and let others for future extensions. If someone strongly wish to typeset as in the picture, we could add an option in future versions of Text (like Text Level 4), but I believe the current behavior covers the most needs.

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