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RE: [css3-layout] Drop it?

From: Sylvain Galineau <sylvaing@microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:12:45 +0000
To: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>, Jeffrey Way <jeffrey@envato.com>
CC: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>, Jon Rimmer <jon.rimmer@gmail.com>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
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Not sure what authors have to do with it. Or do you mean spec authors i.e. editors? My $.02: the “10+ years” claim is misleading as it implies this module has been edited and maintained for the period with little or no significant interruptions. I don’t believe that is the case. Just because a module was *created* 10 years ago doesn’t mean it had an active editor for the entire period. Other circumstances may also be relevant e.g. for a number of years the browser vendor with 90+% market share was only peripherally involved in standardizing this type of work - or even not at all – which probably made progress to REC rather awkward for a number of things.

So before assigning a decade-worth of confidence (or lack thereof) to wide groups of people I think we should double-check our assumptions.
This being said, none of the historical context conflicts with the idea of looking around at all our modules and asking: which are implemented? Which will be? Which won’t be and why? And then take a hard look at things that are not actively edited and/or not implemented and move them to some informative status and move them off our WG front page. That seems reasonable to me.

PS: Do note that several properties in that module have in fact been implemented; some in the old draft were a long time ago, others from the recent versions have been recently.


From: Glenn Adams [mailto:glenn@skynav.com]
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 6:36 AM
To: Jeffrey Way
Cc: Tab Atkins Jr.; Jon Rimmer; www-style list
Subject: Re: [css3-layout] Drop it?

also, taking 10+ years (in the case of CSS Text [1]) and still not being close to finality doesn't exactly inspire confidence in either implementers or authors

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/WD-i18n-format-19990127/

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Jeffrey Way <jeffrey@envato.com<mailto:jeffrey@envato.com>> wrote:
Right now, the problem is that, because there seems to be all these competing layout specs, designers and developers aren't bothering to learn any of them -- as they wait to see which one wins out. That can't be good.
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