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Re: [css3-lists] [css3-speech] Interaction between list-style-type and speak properties

From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:55:18 -0700
Message-ID: <4DB86696.5090307@inkedblade.net>
To: www-style@w3.org
On 04/27/2011 11:43 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:24 AM, fantasai
> <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>  wrote:
>> On 04/27/2011 11:12 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
>>> It doesn't seem like the distinction between numeric and alphabetic is
>>> important.  They're just alternate ways of representing numbers.
>>> We've already made the point that legal documents, where the precise
>>> marker is important, should use inline text for their markers (which
>>> reminds me that I need to add the
>>> display:marker/list-style-type:inline feature).  In other documents,
>>> the fact that a list is presented as "A" instead of "1" is mostly
>>> irrelevant.  This is styling information, not semantic content.
>>
>> Yes, it's styling rather than semantic. I'm not arguing semantics.
>> I'm arguing that if the document is styled with letters, then an
>> aural presentation of it in all likelihood wants to read those letters
>> rather than treating it as bullets (<ul>) or numbers (<ol>) depending
>> on the markup. Daniel's point is that this capability is not addressed
>> in either CSS3 Speech or CSS3 Lists.
>
> And my point is that even if you make the distinction between bullets,
> numbers, and alphanumerics, there are still list styles that can't be
> slotted into those categories.  Even within a seemingly-simple style
> like 'alphabetic', you can get styles that *cannot* be read - for
> example, the "go stones" example I have in the spec.

Which means there's a problem that needs to be solved, not that there
is no problem.

~fantasai
Received on Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:55:49 GMT

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