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Re: [css3-text] script-specific functionality

From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 10:38:52 -0700
Message-ID: <4D9F482C.4050503@inkedblade.net>
To: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp>
CC: Håkon Wium Lie <howcome@opera.com>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
On 04/07/2011 08:51 PM, Koji Ishii wrote:
>> I'm not convinced it makes sense to set these types of
>> values in a style sheet. For example, what does it mean
>> to say:
>>   <p style="text-justify: inter-cluster">候选</p>
>> It seems more natural to describe "justification opportunities"
>> between various types of characters.

That's *exactly* what 'text-justify' does. If that's not clear,
please suggest how it can be made more clear. :)

> Your example doesn't make sense since you're using the value for
> clustered scripts such as Thai against Chinese, which is not a
> clustered script.
> This is an interesting point though. I'm not sure what the difference
> between 'inter-ideograph' and 'inter-cluster'. The spec says the
> difference is "inter-graphemic boundary" or "grapheme cluster boundary".
> I'm not familiar with the former terminology, nor I can find it in UAX #29.


>> What's a typical use case for 'each-line'?
> I'm sorry that I don't have answers to this question. Fantasai?

Poetry or code.

I write a line of code like this.
I add another one like this.
But if the line gets way too long,
   it should indent so what I meant
   does not get misinterpreted.

>> 'hanging' may be useful, but the name doens't sound right to me
>> -- the result isn't always a hanginge first line. Isn't 'invert' better?
> I'm okay with this. Anyone else?

No opinion. 'hanging' was added ages ago; I think that was just
the best keyword hixie and I could come up with.

>> About the 'hanging-puctuation' property:
>>   - it seems that an ending quote cannot hang?
> Correct. See the picture at Wikipedia:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging_punctuation
> If you have use case for an ending quote to hang, I'd be happy to know.

We had a 'last' value in the previous WD, and asked for use cases at
the F2F, but nobody had any so we dropped it.

>> I suggest we remove the 'text-outline' property -- 'text-shadow'
>> should cover it.
> I don't have answer to this question, sorry again -- fantasai?

I have no problem with that. It was even marked as a suggestion in the
draft already. ;)

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