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RE: [css3-lists] Specifying new list-types

From: Belov, Charles <Charles.Belov@sfmta.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:48:45 -0700
Message-ID: <E17F75B6E86AE842A57B4534F82D03769C2F34@MTAMAIL.muni.sfgov.org>
To: "www-style list" <www-style@w3.org>
Cc: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
 

Tab Atkins Jr. wrote on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:58 PM
> >> >
> >> > What about repeating?  Binary would go "0 1 0 1 0 1".
> >>
> >> Is there any real need for repeating?  It's an easy thing 
> to do, but 
> >> I don't think I've ever seen a repeating list marker used in the 
> >> wild.
> >
> > I'm thinking of lists like
> >
> > * first item
> > # second item
> > * third item
> > # fourth item
> >
> > or
> >
> > * first item
> > # second item
> > @ third item
> > * fourth item
> >
> > Not saying this is a real-life case, just illustrating.
> >
> > Again, this would probably be a marketing use (I'm in our Marketing 
> > unit, so I tend to think about such things) rather than day-to-day 
> > office use.
> 
> Right, I understand the use, I just haven't seen it in the 
> wild.  Has your Marketing unit ever used anything like that, 
> or do you have materials that show a list like that?  If 
> there's actual usage I'll throw it in.

Not to my knowledge.  I was just brainstorming.  We marketing
folks (actually, I wear both hats or I wouldn't be tracking w3-styles)
like the "cool" factor, so tend to lean towards enabling things that
aren't done now because they are harder to do.  I'm not even 
anticipating doing this.  I'm just trying to think of things a 
marketing type might like to do.

You, on the other hand, are quite reasonably trying to manage the
scope of this project and keep it reasonable.

So, no, I don't have a real-world use case for either this or for 
numbering lists using one, two, ... ten, eleven as words, but I 
wonder whether it's not done because nobody wants to do it or 
because it is currently so hard.  Yes, one could type these things
out, but then there is the issue of alignment that handling the
numbering through CSS would make so much easier.

Still, very definitely on the outside edge of nice-to-have and 
I totally understand wanting to see a case of folks actually
doing this sort of stuff on a regular basis to justify spending 
time on it (and adding to browser code bloat).

(And actually, one could do the one, two, ... ten, eleven... or the
cycling symbol thing using your schema as it is now.  They'd just 
have to make sure they specified enough glyphs manually in the 
declaration that the numbering wouldn't roll over to the default 
format in any lists that they chose to use the format, e.g.,

   @list paren-decimal {
   type: numeric;
   glyphs: one two one two one two one two one two one two one two
one two one two one two one two one two one two one two one two one 
two one two one two one two one two one two one two one two one two
one two one two one two one two one two one two one two one two one 
two one two one two one two one two one two one two one two one two
one two one two one two one two one two one two one two one two one 
two one two one two one two one two one two one two one two one two
one two one two one two one two one two one two one two one two one 
two one two one two one two one two one two one two one two one two;
   }

Further, marketing techniques that are used over and over lose
effectiveness, which argues against making them easy to create. 

Given all that, I'd skip it.  Sorry for the diversion.

Hope this helps,
Charles Belov
SFMTA Webmaster
Received on Thursday, 9 September 2010 19:54:16 GMT

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