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Re: [css3-multicol] new editor's draft

From: Håkon Wium Lie <howcome@opera.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:13:47 +0200
Message-ID: <19651.63691.623594.311025@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
To: shelby@coolpage.com
Cc: www-style@w3.org
Also sprach Shelby Moore:

 > >   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2010Aug/0492.html
 > 
 > I am thinking that I strongly disagree with the chosen rendering, but I am
 > open to being swayed by logic:
 > 
 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2010Aug/att-0492/image001.png
 > 
 > It seems to me that the designer had given a directive to span all
 > columns, and so they should do that, unless the overflow they cause by
 > doing so, would be hidden, i.e. {overflow:hidden}.
 > 
 > Is that an arbitrary choice you have made to violate the designer's
 > directive? For what benefit do you put this tsuris on the designer?

The decision was made by the Working Group and my role, as editor, is
to implement the WG's decision. I'm not sure the WG wants to reopen
the issue. If you feel strongly about it, you may want to start by
convincing Alex.

 > > Then you should probably make a separate posting with your suggestion.
 > 
 > Any one can give me a pointer where to publicly post such a general
 > suggestion for the entire W3C?

There is no such list. Giving a lightning talk at the TPAC may be the
best way to address the community.

 > Håkon Wium Lie, did you forget to address the other part of my prior post
 > about "multicol content box" versus "column rows"?
 > 
 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2010Oct/0564.html
 > 
 > Or was that point not worthy?

In the editing process, I have read through all your messages. If you
still disagree with text, you're welcome to put forward concrete
change proposals.

It seems, though, that your proposals are editorial at this point.
Perhaps it would be better to channel your writing capacity into a new
document, under your control, which can explain multi-column layout in
your own terms? 

 > P.S. sorry to be a pain, but I think I have some insight to give on
 > columns given I wrote a popular WYSIWYG document processor in mid-1980s
 > (WordUp on Atari ST, written almost entirely in 68000 assembly, yuk!) that
 > did late binding on rendering flow (ala Ventura Publisher) and then
 > actually ended up working with Lee Lorenzen the creator of Ventura
 > Publisher on his Altura Mac -> Windows porting layer when I worked Fractal
 > Design on Painter (the one that came in a paint can and is Corel Painter
 > now).

Wow, lots of history in there :)

My own upbringing was in FrameMaker 1.2.

Cheers,

-h&kon
              Håkon Wium Lie                          CTO °þe®ª
howcome@opera.com                  http://people.opera.com/howcome
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