- From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
- Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:58:03 -0700
- To: www-style@w3.org
Summary:
- Reviewed status of Beijing Profile, 2.1 issues, and TPAC plans.
====== Full minutes below ======
Present:
César Acebal
Tab Atkins
David Baron
Bert Bos
Elika Etemad
Sylvain Galineau
Daniel Glazman
Hĺkon Wium Lie
Chris Lilley
Brad Kemper
Steve Zilles
<RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/09/09-CSS-irc
* bradk is only semi-here as I fulfill other commitments.
Scribe: Tab Atkins
Agenda
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glazou: What to do with Beijing profile? Make note about it or drop it?
glazou: Requests fantasai to write up minutes from last week.
Bert: wants to discuss exactly what the containing block is for a run-in.
glazou: Hakon wants to defer 2nd item (floats in multicol) until next week.
<fantasai> http://www.w3.org/2009/09/02-CSS-irc -- unformatted minutes from last week
<fantasai> I'll send the minutes out soon
glazou: Hyatt's not around, so defer first item (gradients) until later
Beijing Profile
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<fantasai> Beijing profile is waiting on Selectors
<dbaron> I think we should continue planning to advance css-beijing on
rec track
fantasai: role of CSS Beijing is to describe the state of CSS at the time.
fantasai: waiting on Selectors to enter CR before Beijing can enter CR.
glazou: Any other opinions about what to do with it?
* myakura wonders if MQ can be a part of the profile
<dbaron> myakura, I think MQ should be in the next one
Sylvain: who is it useful to?
fantasai: it's useful to people who don't track us closely, and want to
know what's useful/usable right now.
fantasai: Beijing says "these are the specs we consider to be stable and
active, and should be considered "part of CSS" right now"
sylvaing: I've never seen anyone talking about Beijing outside of the WG.
Sylvain: Who is using it? How do they find it?
fantasai: Validators are using it. Our website can be confusing, but it's
still a useful document. Will be more useful once we redirect
css3-roadmap to point to it; that'll happen with its CR publication.
Fantasai: The current work website lists all sorts of things that may not
be actually useful CSS right now for authors, Beijing provides
a useful service to authors.
<dbaron> We could also rename it to "CSS Snapshot 2010" or whatever once
we determine what the correct year is :-)
glazou: As long as authors will find it useful, I'm okay with it.
glazou: What do we do with the current document?
Bert: It's useful as a CR. I want to point people to it.
Bert: At the moment it's just a Working Draft, and causing confusion with
all the other WDs we have.
sylvaing: ...but if it is aimed at authors, the latter need to be able to
get to it and find it easily
fantasai: I can't move it to CR until Selectors moves. I'd love to move it,
but selectors is blocking.
fantasai: Let's deal with Selectors LC so we can move it.
fantasai: I need a full week to address all LC comments and get them
formatted/published
glazou: Defer that, waiting on fantasai to address Selectors comments
<anne> FWIW, moving the snapshot to CR is possible even if Selectors is LC
<anne> The normative reference problem arises at PR, not CR, and even there
you could in theory ignore it if you have good reasons.
CSS2.1 Issues
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glazou: next item from Bert! (containing block for run-ins) Suggest send
an email to www-style
Bert: Sure. I can point out options, but am not sure which direction to go in.
glazou: Give people a week or so to think about it on the list.
glazou: Any further CSS 2.1 issues to discuss. don't think we had anything
left from last week?
fantasai: Don't believe anything off the top of my head is ready for discussion.
TPAC / Future Agendas
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glazou: TPAC - we should start collecting agenda items
* fantasai will come
<ChrisL> I will attend TPAC
glazou: I'd like to know how many people are coming. Send attendance/regrets
asap, don't forgot to book flights and hotels.
glazou: CSS Variables - we need Hyatt, so let's not discuss, but at
least get it minuted.
glazou: Proposal from Hyatt and me in Webkit, another proposal from fantasai
glazou: It's a top question from designers. I want a decision to either
move forward or just drop it.
glazou: it seems like we just stopped
Bert: I want it dropped; haven't changed my opinion
glazou: I'll drop Hyatt an email to get him in next week.
glazou: That's it. Short call. See you next week.
Received on Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:59:22 UTC