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Re: [CSS21] rules="all" attribute specification and border-collapse property

From: Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@MIT.EDU>
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 10:01:04 -0700
Message-ID: <49FB2AD0.3050706@mit.edu>
CC: Gérard Talbot <info@gtalbot.org>, www-style@w3.org
2009/5/1 Gérard Talbot <info@gtalbot.org>:
> Hello all,
> The CSS 2.1 specification, section 17.6 (and its sub-sections) should
> *_clarify explicitly_* the relationship between rules="all" and
> border-collapse property. I have been trying to convince IE team to
> implement in their IE 8 browser this browser default rule:
> table[rules]:not([rules="all"]) {border-collapse: collapse;}
> rules="all" should apply to both border-collapse models and rules="all"
> should not trigger one particular border-collapse model.
> It is my belief that rules="all", without any specified border-collapse
> CSS declaration (by default, tables use the separate border-collapse
> model), should render border rules around (each) cells and this is what IE
> 8 fails to do and this is precisely what IE team declines to implement.
> One thing IE team replied - and I fully agree with them on this point - is
> that the current CSS 2.1 specification is not clear enough, not explicit
> enough on the relation between HTML 4.01 rules="all" attribute
> specification and border-collapse model.

rules="all" certainly implies border-collapse:collapse in Gecko.  Is 
there any browser where it does not?  (I'd be pretty surprised, because 
last I checked sites were depending on it.)

Received on Friday, 1 May 2009 17:02:02 UTC

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