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RE: [CSS21][css3-namespace][css3-page][css3-selectors][css3-content] Unicode Normalization

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:54:45 -0000
To: "'Anne van Kesteren'" <annevk@opera.com>, <public-i18n-core@w3.org>, <www-style@w3.org>
Message-ID: <004401c982ea$b10c20d0$13246270$@org>

Hello Anne,

> 1) Do browsers normalize currently?

The emails below point to some tests and results that show that the major browsers on XP currently don't normalise class names and selectors before comparing.

> 2) Assuming they do not, who have complained?

I don't think we can build the Web purely on the basis of what people have complained about in the past.  The Web needs to be built in the most accessible way possible, and we need to, where we can, anticipate future issues.  In this case, these issues are likely to touch most on developing parts of the world who probably haven't yet found their voice to a large extent.  But I suspect they will, and I think we have a responsibility to bear them in mind so that the Web can be used more universally, at the same feature and usability levels.  Consider the hoops we are asking them to jump through as alluded to in the mail pointed to below.  Wouldn't you complain?

Cheers,
RI
  



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Richard Ishida
Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)

http://www.w3.org/International/
http://rishida.net/



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anne van Kesteren [mailto:annevk@opera.com]
> Sent: 30 January 2009 14:25
> To: Richard Ishida; 'L. David Baron'; public-i18n-core@w3.org; www-
> style@w3.org
> Subject: Re: [CSS21][css3-namespace][css3-page][css3-selectors][css3-
> content] Unicode Normalization
> 
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:12:35 +0100, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org> wrote:
> > [This thread grew out of one that didn't include www.style, and has since
> > forked a little.  I am therefore pointing to a couple of emails (on the
> > i18n public list) that didn't reach www.style but that I think are
> > relevant.  I suggest that we henceforth keep both public-i18n and
> > www-style copied on all emails related to this topic. ]
> >
> > See Martin's email at
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2009JanMar/0039.html
> >
> > See my response at
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2009JanMar/0041.html
> 
> So
> 
> 1) Do browsers normalize currently?
> 
> 2) Assuming they do not, who have complained?
> 
> I may be biased, but I have the feeling that performing Unicode
> Normalization on code snippets is overkill. It could potentially also make
> certain class names and IDs identical that are now different/unique. Seems
> like a bad idea to me.
> 
> 
> --
> Anne van Kesteren
> <http://annevankesteren.nl/>
> <http://www.opera.com/>
Received on Friday, 30 January 2009 14:54:44 GMT

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