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Re: [CSS21] Concern about anonymous table objects and whitespace

From: Bert Bos <bert@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:40:37 +0100
To: www-style@w3.org
Message-Id: <200901232040.37648.bert@w3.org>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 21:18, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@mit.edu> 
> > Thinking about your use case some more, what if we allowed
> > inference of table rows between tables and cells, say, but didn't
> > show any non-table-related anything that's a direct child of a
> > table, table-row-group, or table-row?  Would that cover enough of
> > the use cases? It would certainly cover both of yours.
> >
> > As far as that goes, we could also require that any table-row,
> > table-row-group, or table-cell needs to have a table somewhere
> > around it. That would still cover your use cases, but be
> > significantly simpler.
> After thinking on it a bit more (and a quick off-list discussion with
> Boris), I think this is exactly what we should do.  Not only is it
> simple, but afaict it matches current <table> behavior perfectly.

The counterexample is this: I want to render the following three lists 
(days, persons and places) as a single 4x3 table.

      <title>Week 13</title>

I can do that with a style sheet like this:

    title {display: block; font-size: large; margin: 1em 0}
    days, persons, places {display: table-row}
    item {display: table-cell}

There is no element corresponding to the table box.

Unfortunately, this doesn't allow me to use the collapsing borders 
model, making the use of borders a bit more difficult. But with some 
clever selectors I can usually still get the borders where I want them.

(We once also considered a "transpose" or "column-major" feature to swap 
columns and rows, but that hasn't been a high priority.)

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