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Re: Proposal: Iterative steps for CSS Transitions

From: David Hyatt <hyatt@apple.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:58:51 -0600
Cc: www-style@w3.org
Message-id: <F6356ADE-45F0-4AF7-AFC8-273AD4677BCE@apple.com>
To: Faruk Ateş <faruk@apple.com>
Can't this just be done with a new timing function value rather than a  
new property?


On Jan 10, 2009, at 12:45 AM, Faruk Ateş wrote:

> Hi,
> The CSS Transition spec proposal only supports fully-tweened  
> transitions, e.g. any numerical transition will hit as many  
> numerical points in-between the start and finish figures as the  
> duration of the transition will allow. In other words, an element  
> moved from left: 0px to left: 1000px over a duration of 10 seconds  
> will very smoothly move the element across the screen.
> However, if you deliberately want a non-smooth transition, e.g. more  
> of a finely-controlled stop motion animation, there's no way to do  
> that. Even CSS Animations and the keyframes it offers won't allow  
> you to do this.
> While non-smooth transitions may seem undesirable in most  
> situations, they can be invaluable for background image transitions.  
> Using a CSS Sprite, one could create any imaginable visual  
> transition and simply use a CSS Transition for the animation.
> With the current spec proposal (and its implementation in WebKit),  
> this is impossible to accomplish without simply manually writing out  
> Javascript to iterate through a series of different style properties  
> on the element for each iterative step — basically the very process  
> that CSS Transitions (and Animations) aims to make obsolete.
> Imagine the following:
> A box, 100px wide by 50px tall. It has a background image, which is  
> a CSS Sprite that contains 5 different states. The sprite is an  
> image 100px wide by 250px tall. When hovering, you want the  
> background-position to go like this exactly:
> (default) background-position: 0 0;
> background-position: 0 -50px;
> background-position: 0 -100px;
> background-position: 0 -150px;
> background-position: 0 -200px;
> background-position: 0 -250px;
> Explicitly in iterative steps of 50 pixels, and not as some kind of  
> smooth transition that may hit up 0 -20px, or 0 -70px, etc.
> The way the browser could implement this is via a hypothetical   
> transition-iteration property (or alternative names: transition- 
> interval / transition-step):
> Name: 		transition-iteration
> Value:   		auto | <number> | <length> | <percentage>
> Initial:		auto
> Applies to: 	block-level and inline-level elements
> Inherited:  	no
> Percentages: refer only to animatable properties that allow  
> percentages
> Media: 		visual
> Computed value: Same as specified value.
> If set to auto, transitions are smooth just like they are right now.  
> If set to a number, length or percentage (which can only be used for  
> corresponding properties that accept numbers, lengths and  
> percentages respectively, or else it will be considered invalid  
> syntax and resort back to auto), it calculates the exact steps and  
> spreads them across the duration time of the animation. Any  
> remaining number, length or percentage after the final iterated step  
> would be omitted but the time calculation will smooth out the  
> animation accordingly.
> Am I still making sense? :)
> The transition-iteration property could be added to the transition:  
> shorthand property in any position, but it probably makes most sense  
> to append it after transition-delay.
> Looking forward to hearing other people's thoughts on this.
> - Faruk
Received on Sunday, 11 January 2009 17:59:33 UTC

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