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Re: Unicode Normalization thread should slow down; summary needed

From: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:44:03 +0200
Cc: public-i18n-core@w3.org, W3C Style List <www-style@w3.org>
Message-Id: <C5D2570C-C908-4ED2-89BB-B61B389828EC@iki.fi>
To: Robert J Burns <rob@robburns.com>

On Feb 10, 2009, at 12:47, Robert J Burns wrote:

> I originally like the statement of the problem Henri composed and  
> added to the wiki page. However, the latest edits that remove L.  
> David Baron's problem statement actually make the piece almost  
> impossible to follow. I know what its supposed to say and I have  
> trouble following it, so I think an uninitiated reader will not have  
> a clue what the issue is about.

I didn't remove the original problem statement. I *moved* it to the  
*linked* page that approaches the issue from the Unicode technical  
background point of view as opposed from the point of view of what  
authors should be able to do.

I've added a concrete Vietnamese example and noted that the other case  
needs a concrete example. I also added a quick explanation of  
normalization forms using the Vietnamese letter as an example.

(It seems that the Vietnamese input mode on Mac OS X normalizes to  
NFC, by the way. In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Mac OS X  
already had solution #1 covered and this was just an issue of other  
systems catching up.)

> Even before these latest changes the page needed more clarification  
> added. For example, some of the solutions are difficult to  
> differentiate: for example number #1 and #4 (originally #3).

What's difficult to differentiate between #1 and #4? Solution #1 is  
requiring input methods to normalize. Solution #4 is creating a new  
encoding name utf-8-nfc for allowing authors to opt in to consumer- 
side normalization on the encoding decoder layer.

> In any event the latest changes have made the page seem completely  
> unconnected to the discussions on the list serve.

I gathered that the point of moving to the wiki was not to avoid  
bringing it all to the list serve.

Henri Sivonen
Received on Tuesday, 10 February 2009 12:44:46 UTC

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