From: Dr. Olaf Hoffmann <Dr.O.Hoffmann@gmx.de>

Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:32:23 +0200

To: www-style@w3.org

Message-Id: <200912021832.23981.Dr.O.Hoffmann@gmx.de>

Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:32:23 +0200

To: www-style@w3.org

Message-Id: <200912021832.23981.Dr.O.Hoffmann@gmx.de>

Simon Fraser: >skew(a, b) results in the this matrix: [1 tan(b) tan(a) 1 0 0]. Zack Weinberg: > > For what it's worth, this is the matrix that Gecko produces for > > skew(ThetaX, ThetaY): > | 1 tan(ThetaX) 0| > | tan(ThetaY) 1 0| > | 0 0 1| > > skewx(theta) is treated as identical to skew(theta, 0) and > skewy(theta) is treated as identical to skew(0, theta). > > I have no position on whether this is useful to authors or > mathematically meaningful. > > zw Interesting ... Then the naming is misleading. Because the determinant is not 1 for arbitrary angles, this is not really skewing, it is a mixture of skewing and scaling or something even more general... skewX and skewY are defined to be the same as in SVG, therefore those are simple and really related to skewing/shearing, because the determinant is 1. SVG has no skew without X or Y, therefore currently the problem occurs only with the undefined property in the CSS3 proposal. Maybe more useful to have a vector and an angle as value to be able to share along the vector instead of having this surprising transformation not related to skew or shear. Or with two angles alpha and beta one could define it as something like rotate(-alpha) skewX(beta) rotate(alpha) to get something meaningful Olaf http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ShearMatrix.htmlReceived on Wednesday, 2 December 2009 17:36:21 UTC

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