W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > www-style@w3.org > January 2008

Re: Re[19]: css with attribues [hardware]

From: David Dorward <david@dorward.me.uk>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:03:11 +0000
Message-Id: <7B1D5CEE-7166-4C79-BC91-6EB4B7A01A41@dorward.me.uk>
To: CSS Style <www-style@w3.org>

On 17 Jan 2008, at 13:18, Dmitry Turin wrote:
> DD> if a user agent doesn't support CSS
> DD> it doesn't matter (since information is not lost).
>   When standard appends new attribute into tag,

A new tag doesn't require any user agents to rewrite their entire  
parse engine to mix in data from multiple souce.

>>> User gets benefit (unnecessary to keep separation in brain),

> DD> As mentioned, this is a disadvantage.
> Excuse me, explain, how "unnecessary to keep separation in brain"
> is "disadvantage".

I've already explained how separating presentation from content is an  
advantage. Your proposal removes that.

>>> 1) CAS will reduce manual job
>>> ("multiply to quantity of population, than to quantity of
>>> pages on sites - and you will get real number of duplications,
>>> which are quite not little")
> DD> As mentioned, there doesn't appear to be any significant saving on
> DD> the amount of effort authors have to go to.
> Translate me, please, your complex english :)

The reduction you say will be achieved will be so small as to not be  

> DD> (b) What about "realtime" UAs?
>>> It is UA, which give results to end of time,
>>> which user can (or want) wait.
>>> E.g. if UA is browers, then result is rendering,
>>> time is equal 1 second;
>>> if UA is electronic storage, then result is filling database,
>>> time depends of destination of this storage
>>> (in any case, it is much more, than 1 second).
> DD> The result is irrelevant to my point. The point is that user  
> agents
> DD> (such as Lynx) will no longer be able to simply take the HTML
> DD> document and parse it, outputting the result as they go.
> What is common between definition of my term and
> inability to parse html-file without css-file ?

CSS contains presentation. You can discard the presentation without  
losing any meaning. Your proposal moves meaning into an external  
file. It cannot be discarded without losing meaning.

David Dorward
Received on Thursday, 17 January 2008 14:14:33 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.1 : Monday, 2 May 2016 14:27:33 UTC