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Re: Printing Backgrounds

From: jesse von doom <jesse@dutchmoney.com>
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:32:49 -0400
Message-ID: <47080D11.8070602@dutchmoney.com>
To: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Cc: www-style@w3.org

Just to clarify, are you thinking that backgrounds would print on any 
page that specifies a print style sheet, or just for those where 
background is specifically dealt with *in* the print style sheet?

If we're talking about the latter, then I like the idea. If a background 
is specifically set in a print style sheet then it makes sense that it 
is intended to be printed...but I'd also argue the opposite. If there is 
a print sheet, but no mention of a background, then I doubt that it was 
thought of as a printed background so it could be treated as a 
screen-media background only. (aka, not printed by default.) So I guess 
its almost a matter of inheritance between media...

The real issue is that print stylesheets are underused, but this could 
be an issue that would bring them more into the light.


fantasai wrote:
> Although they have an option to do so, by default most browsers don't 
> print backgrounds.
> I'd like to change that so that we print backgrounds for authors who 
> have thought about
> print and have set up their style sheets accordingly.
> My idea was to turn on background printing for pages that have an 
> explicit print style sheet.
> To me that indicates the author has considered printing, and hopefully 
> has used backgrounds
> and colors accordingly. This is similar to the way Opera turns off its 
> layout heuristics
> for small devices when the author has explicitly specified a handheld 
> style sheet.
> David Baron doesn't like that idea as stated in
>   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381466
> and wants something else "like a meta element or an @-rule" that an 
> author specifies to
> turn background printing on.
> Note that if the author doesn't specify this meta element or @-rule or 
> print style sheet,
> backgrounds will still print if the user turns them on. And if the 
> author does specify
> the meta element or @-rule or print style sheet backgrounds still won't 
> print if the user
> turns them off. (Usually if the backgrounds are turned off, light text 
> colors also get
> tweaked to be darker.)
> So, comments, ideas, proposals?
> ~fantasai
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