W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > www-style@w3.org > July 2007

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: 3rd call: CSS2: howto disable audio?

From: ~:'' ありがとうございました。 <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:21:14 +0100
Message-Id: <4BEE7C56-6FB2-47CF-819E-37E74CF6C2ED@btinternet.com>
Cc: David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>, www-style CSS <www-style@w3.org>
To: Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu.dumitriu@gmail.com>

Sergiu,

not sure how closely you are following this thread...
unfortunately as discussed previously display:none has rather too  
large a remit for a user style sheet.
that is it is difficult or more likely impossible to limit to a  
particular file type.

this contrasts rather strongly with the case of img which  
specifically addresses  a limited and specific range of file types.

regards

Jonathan Chetwynd



On 30 Jul 2007, at 14:08, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:


~:'' ありがとうございました。 wrote:
>
> David,
>
> you fail to address the query you highlight:
> "Is there a good reason CSS does not cover this issue?"
> is there a technical or other good reason beyond the historical  
> artefact is already stated.
>
> clearly many users might prefer to hide flash on a site by site  
> basis via there browser and quite likely a user style sheet.
>

You can hide flash by setting display:none on the object or embed  
element. But you cannot make only the sound inside the flash stop  
while the flash is a binary entity that does not understand CSS.

> regards
>
> Jonathan Chetwynd
>
>
>
> On 30 Jul 2007, at 08:33, David Woolley wrote:
>
>
> ~:'' ありがとうございました。 wrote:
>
>> this seems to be counter-intuitive, and a resolution by file type  
>> seems feasible or possibly even near-trivial.
>> Is there a good reason CSS does not cover this issue?
>
> You are taking a view that represents a popular misconception that  
> web standard define the complete browser as a multimedia  
> presentation engine, and which leads to people asking about Flash  
> on www-html.
>
> In its original concept, HTML provided glue to ease the navigation  
> to resources in many different forms.  Commercialisation has led to  
> something of a compound document concept and special sorts of links  
> that result in concurrent rendering of linked resources.  However,  
> the fact still remains that, if you link to (embed, access with  
> object) resources rendered by third party products, you cannot  
> expect those third party products to fully integrate with the W3C  
> technologies in the core product.
>
> If HTML had been designed as a multimedia presentation tool, it  
> would be
> different, but it might also not exist at all, because it would  
> have been in direct competition with tools better at doing that job  
> at the time it was invented.
>
Received on Monday, 30 July 2007 18:25:16 GMT

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.2.0+W3C-0.50 : Monday, 27 April 2009 13:54:51 GMT