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Re: CSS Futures

From: James Elmore <James.Elmore@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:54:11 -0700
Message-ID: <468D7693.50802@cox.net>
To: www-style@w3.org

Blocks may have margins. When blocks are adjacent to each other (visually, not 
necessarily in the HTML document flow), the current CSS model specifies that the 
margins sometimes collapse into each other.

(http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#collapsing-margins has the details.)

The rules currently defined may not provide what HTML / CSS authors want for 
their pages. CSS can add the following:

'margin-collapse', 'margin-collapse-x, 'margin-collapse-y
     Value:          normal | none | min | max | all
     Initial:        normal
     Applies to:     all elements except elements with table display types other
                     than table-caption, table and inline-table
     Inherited:      no
     Media:          visual

normal     use normal margin collapse behaviors.
none       no collapse, use both full margins.
min        use only minimum (smallest) margin.
max        use only maximum (largest) margin.
all        collapse all margins, draw none. Place borders next to each other.

margin-collapse sets both (x and y) directions. margin-collapse-x and 
margin-collapse-y, set horizontal and vertical  directions separately.

To handle the case where adjacent elements (left-right or top-bottom) have 
different margin-collapse styles, some disambiguating rule needs to be 
formulated. I am currently considering (mostly because it is simple) the FIRST 
element's style applies. (First means the left in left-right or top in top-bottom.)

[Questions to consider:

If there is no margin to collapse (e.g., the start or end of a row, or top or 
bottom of a block), the padding of the parent block may lie (visibly) adjacent 
to the margin of the contained block. Would the padding be added to the margin 
or should the margin collapse there as well? In some cases, the current margin 
collapse rules specify that the margin collapses into the parent padding; in 
others, there is no collapse. I hope that margin-padding-collapse is not 
necessary, as this gets entirely too complex.

Should margin-collapse allow control of individual sides, such as 
margin-collapse-left and margin-collapse-top? In this case, which prevails if 
only one is set or if they are set differently?]

James Elmore
Received on Thursday, 5 July 2007 22:54:26 UTC

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