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Re: standard out of the box

From: Aleksey V Lazar <lazar@mnsu.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:14:46 -0600
Message-ID: <476ABF26.7010907@mnsu.edu>
To: Alex Mogilevsky <alexmog@exchange.microsoft.com>
CC: Håkon Wium Lie <howcome@opera.com>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>

The quirks mode most certainly has to exist, but as a fall back.  There
is probably no need to invent anything new here.  This is how Mozilla
does it: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mozilla's_DOCTYPE_sniffing.

Aleksey

Alex Mogilevsky wrote:
> It is to be decided how exactly you get into standards mode. It sounds like what you are suggesting is that IE8 is standard by default, and that it abandons compatibility with its previous versions. Is this what you think would be best for the web?
>
> Don't get me wrong, I don't have any attachment to quirks mode. I would love to use standards everywhere. But certainly, if we just drop quirks mode, we'll break millions of pages. Somehow we have to be able to tell that a page is actually designed for standards.
>
> What do you think is the right way to decide if a page will not be broken if rendered in 100% standard mode?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-style-request@w3.org [mailto:www-style-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of H�kon Wium Lie
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:28 AM
> To: www-style@w3.org
> Subject: Re: FW: IE Blog: Internet Explorer 8 and Acid2: A Milestone
>
>
> I wrote:
>
>  > I hope that IE8 passes the ACID2 test out of the box when it ships
>
> Some people have asked me to clarify what I mean by this. What I mean
> is that IE8 must be able to render Acid2 correctly by default. Users
> should not have to change preferences for this to happen, and the
> authors shouldn't have to change the test. It would be helpful if
> Microsoft could confirm that Acid2 will pass by default, and that
> other documents that ask for standards mode (as per [1]) also will
> benefit from the improvements in standards mode.
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quirks_mode
>
> Cheers,
>
> -h&kon
>               H�kon Wium Lie                          CTO ��e��
> howcome@opera.com                  http://people.opera.com/howcome
>
>
>
>   

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