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Re: CSS and quotation typography

From: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <benjaminhawkeslewis@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:41:35 +0100
Message-Id: <pan.2006.09.18.13.41.23.269841@hotmail.com>
To: www-style@w3.org

Sorry, I messed up my footnotes. Correct references below:

[1] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/draft-ietf-iiir-html-01.txt

[2] http://www.docbook.org/whatis

[3] http://www.latex-project.org/guides/usrguide.pdf

[4] (not in text)

[5] http://www.nc.uk.net/nc/contents/En-2-3-POS.html#N109BF 

[6] http://www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/stats/englandstats.html#graph

[7] http://www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/stats/adultstats.html#England

[8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2006Sep/0141.html

[9] http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/08/28/728654.aspx

I would also like to note I was perhaps a bit unkind to include
http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/14577.html in my examples of not
using or misusing <blockquote>.

I still think their markup is pretty atrocious:

> <blockquote class="quotebig">
> <dl>
> <dt>We shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end, we shall
> fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight
> with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall
> defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the
> beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the
> fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never
> surrender.</dt> <dd class="author"><b><a
> href="/quotes/Sir_Winston_Churchill/">Sir Winston Churchill</a></b>,
> <i>Speech, 4. June, 1940</i><br><i>British politician  (1874 -
> 1965)</i></dd>
> </dl>
> </blockquote>

However, it has a precedent in the mangling of <blockquote> by WCAG
(http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#text-quotes), which gives the
following cringeworthy example:

> <BLOCKQUOTE cite="http://www.example.com/loveslabourlost">
>     <P>Remuneration! O! that's the Latin word for three farthings.
>        --- William Shakespeare (Love's Labor Lost).
>     </P>
> </BLOCKQUOTE>
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