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Re: overflow:none or min-width:auto/intrinsic?

From: Andrew Fedoniouk <news@terrainformatica.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:58:29 -0800
Message-ID: <001501c65373$87fa2560$c302000a@internal.toppro.net>
To: <emrahbaskaya@hesido.com>
Cc: <www-style@w3.org>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Emrah BASKAYA" <emrahbaskaya@hesido.com>


| What a coinsidence, I was just about to write that why such a feature is
| so much needed tho from slightly different point of view. I heartily
| support your view and I will add that having a forced minimum intrinsic
| size based on child elements would also be very useful in defining the
| parent elements size inside an overflowed element. To illustrate what I
| mean I did a small test case, please visit:
| 
| http://www.hesido.com/test/webdesign/overflowcontent.htm
| 

Yes, and here is another one:
http://www.terrainformatica.com/w3/w3c-fp.jpg ,
not user friendly I would say. A lot of devices having small screens are 
emerging.

Lack of min-width: intrinsic is forcing people to use tables for that.

As far as I remember it was a proposal of D. Baron (?) about
min/max-intrinsic but I cannot find it in current CSS3 draft.

Andrew.


| >
| > As far as I understand there is no way in CSS [1,2,3]
| > to define rule:
| > "set width of the block to 300px but not less than
| > min-intrinsic width of its content"
| > using existing set of attributes or/and values, am I right?
| >
| > In fact such algorithm is implemented in all UAs - it looks like
| > table cells declared as either:
| >
| > td { overflow:none; }
| >
| > -or-
| >
| > td { min-width: min-intrinsic; }
| >
| > in all accessible to me UAs.
| >
| > (I know that there are no such value as 'none' in overflow currently)
| >
| > Trident engine (IE6/7 for Win32) seems like have
| > overflow:none; as a default value for all block elements. It does overflow
| > only if there is explicit declaration overflow:visible/etc.
| >
| > OT: (This is why w3c.org front page looks better in IE than in any other
| > engine on small screen sizes,
| > visual effects of overflow:visible as a rule give an impression of bad
| > design. Try to reduce size of browser window
| > to see what I mean)
| >
| > Question is: do we have any plans to introduce overflow:none
| > or min-width: min-intrinsic or the like?
| >
| > This in my opinion is so fundamental that it should appear even in 2.1.
| > At least display:table-cell is not quite working without it.
| >
| > Andrew Fedoniouk.
| > http://terrainformatica.com
| 
|
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