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Re: Standards mode and Quirks mode (was Re: [CSS21] Test Suite)

From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:26:43 +0200
Message-ID: <1423927464.20040726222643@w3.org>
To: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
Cc: www-style@w3.org, "L. David Baron" <dbaron@dbaron.org>

On Sunday, July 25, 2004, 12:20:14 PM, Henri wrote:

HS> On Jul 24, 2004, at 01:17, Chris Lilley wrote:

>> [1] (HTML 4 transitional) Triggers Quirks mode for Netscape

HS> That's not a real problem, because authors of new documents are 
HS> expected to use an HTML 4.01 doctype.

>> In practice therefore to get best compatibility you need to author in
>> XHTML, have a perl script or something that cuts out the xml
>> declaration and ensures the string <html or <title is in the first 256
>> bytes and generally produces something that will not trip up IE,
>> send the processed stuff as text/html to Win/IE and send the authored
>> stuff as application/xhtml+xml for everyone else.

HS> If you want the best compatibility, I'd suggest serving HTML 4.01 as
HS> text/html. Certainly, serving application/xhtml+xml to Lynx and Google
HS> does not lead to the best compatibility. Also, if you serve text/html
HS> to IE and application/xhtml+xml to others, you deprive Mozilla and 
HS> Safari users of incremental display.

Where does it say in the XHTML spec that incremental display must be
disabled for that media type?

HS> (Yes, Google does not support application/xhtml+xml as demonstrated by
HS> this query: 
HS> http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl%3Alite+site%3Amacsanomat.fi)

Google does not support any XML media types. The suggestion has been
made to them, often, that they should do so.

 Chris Lilley                    mailto:chris@w3.org
 Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
 Member, W3C Technical Architecture Group
Received on Monday, 26 July 2004 16:27:48 UTC

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