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Re: [CSS21] Test Suite

From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 02:43:19 +0200
Message-ID: <1311714068.20040723024319@w3.org>
To: "Mark Moore" <mark.moore@notlimited.com>
Cc: www-style@w3.org

On Friday, July 23, 2004, 12:13:48 AM, Mark wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: www-style-request@w3.org [mailto:www-style-request@w3.org] On Behalf
>> Of Chris Lilley
>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:24 PM
>> To: Boris Zbarsky
>> Cc: www-style@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: [CSS21] Test Suite
MM> [snip]
>> Right. I agree that putting this into something served as text/html is a
>> really bad idea. Since the discussion was xhtml I assumed it was served
>> with the correct MIME type.
>> BZ> Of course sending XHTML 1.1 markup (which these tests are) as
>> text/html is an
>> BZ> issue in itself...
>> Yes, its a broken misfeature that should never have been suggested.
>> Trying to send XML to a tag-souper and saying "don't use this" "leave a
>> space here it might help" etc is a disaster.

MM> So... I understand the points that Boris, Chris, and the others are making.
MM> I am properly chastised, and I have changed the settings of IIS to send the
MM> application/xhtml+xml Content-Type for the XHTML pages.  With that said, my
MM> fear is we're losing the forest for the trees.

MM> My suggestions were designed to expand the set of UA's that would have a
MM> running chance at passing the CSS 2.1 interoperability test suite.  Using
MM> constructs in the test suite that knowingly exclude HTML4 UA's is
MM> arbitrarily limiting.

I don't believe anyone suggested that the HTML 4 tests be served as
anything other than HTL 4 - text/plain.

MM> There's nothing in CSS that requires XHTML, and XHTML was specifically
MM> designed so that "XHTML documents can be written to operate as well or
MM> better than they did before in existing HTML 4-conforming user agents." [1]
MM> Why not take advantage of this feature?

Dodging around tag soup parsing to see if it sort of works? Because that
part is already tested, and the idea is to test what happens when XHTML
is served as XHTML, as well.

 Chris Lilley                    mailto:chris@w3.org
 Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
 Member, W3C Technical Architecture Group
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