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RE: [css3-page] examples in 3.3.2 (page size) are 'US-centric'(?)

From: Ernest Cline <ernestcline@mindspring.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:29:24 -0500
Message-ID: <410-220041523172924647@mindspring.com>
To: "Michael Day" <mikeday@yeslogic.com>
Cc: www-style@w3.org

> [Original Message]
> From: Michael Day <mikeday@yeslogic.com>
> >  na-invoice 
> >  na-letter
> >  na-legal 
> >  na-ledger 
> >  
> >  iso-a5 
> >  iso-b5 
> >  iso-a4 
> >  iso-b4 
> >  iso-a3 
> > 
> > Is this an acceptable subset of all possible media names?
> No; we will continue to support the "a4" keyword, as millions of people
> are familiar with A4 paper sizes and have never heard of ISO.

Is this because you truly feel that "a4" is the superior keyword or because
you jumped the gun and have a product that supports a draft version of
this module that was clearly announced as being subject to change, so
you don't want any changes.  Unfortunately, given that product, I would
have to discount your concerns, altho those of others such as Christoph
and Tantek I would still consider as those I have no reason to believe
that their views may be biased by commercial considerations in this case.

However, now that I've gotten that rant out of my system, the question
to me becomes: "Is it a reasonable possibility that this or a future version
of the Paged Media module would support either the ISO B sizes or the
JIS B sizes by keyword?"  If the answer is yes, then I feel strongly that
the "iso-" prefix (and thus for consistency the "na-" prefix as well) should
be used in the standard.  If not, while I would still prefer the prefixed
versions despite it being codeJunkish, I would have no objection
to using a simple "A4" keyword as at that point it is clearly a matter
of style and not substance.

What scant information I have seen indicates  that the Japanese use
the JIS B series in preference to the ISO B series. (I have seen supplies
imported from Japan intended for use in drawing comic books that use
the JIS A and JIS B series for sizes.  (JIS A = ISO A so that's not a
However, as I have said, I lack knowledge of the paper normally used with
computers in Japan, and comic books are not computers.

Since I lack that knowledge, I have asked for more info on the USENET
group soc.culture.japan.  I'll let the list know what response (if any) I
or you can look for it yourself.
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