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RE: CSS 4?

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:44:46 +0000 (UTC)
To: Robert Koberg <rob@koberg.com>
Cc: www-style@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0310232140300.10860@dhalsim.dreamhost.com>

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Robert Koberg wrote:
> [...]

Glad we agree! :-)

> I keep hoping that contentEditable will get added to the (X)HTML spec(s).

It's not a simple problem. It applies to more than just HTML; some might
say it should be in CSS but others disagree that it is presentational and
insist it is semantic; it is useless on its own, needing a set of editing
interfaces to make it useful; etc.

I have yet to see a decent proposal that would take all that into account
(and I say that as the editor of one of the proposals).

>> The current CSS-to-PDF systems are very advanced, easily as advanced as
>> the XSL:FO-to-PDF systems in my limited experience.
> Apache FOP is pretty limited, but there are some other ones (renderX) out
> there that can do quite a bit more.

You may be interested in yeslogic's Prince:


>> Of course, why you would want to take perfectly accessible XHTML+CSS
>> and turn it into device-dependent, non-user-configurable PDF is beyond
>> me.
> :) me too. We have an ASP based CMS and I totally refuse to use
> (generate) it mainly because of the processing power required. For our
> print friendly pages we just present a stripped down HTML version of a
> page/folder/site. BTW, (if we are in control) we only output valid HTML,
> CSS and are 508 compliant :)


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