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RE: Ideas for CSS 3.0?

From: Peter Foti (PeterF) <PeterF@SystolicNetworks.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:51:12 -0400
Message-ID: <A10A983C9DFBD4119F0300104B2EA6B72602D4@ZIPPY>
To: "'Matt'" <matt@hogwarts-library.net>, "'www-style@w3.org'" <www-style@w3.org>

Matt,

I believe he meant to suggest that the usage would include the width, but
not the margin settings:

div { align: center; width: 55%; }

Regards,
Peter



>-----Original Message-----
>From: www-style-request@w3.org [mailto:www-style-request@w3.org]On
>Behalf Of Matt
>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:34 PM
>To: www-style@w3.org
>Subject: Re: Ideas for CSS 3.0?
>
>
>
>Arthur Wiebe wrote:
>> Mikko Rantalainen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Gerard Torenvliet wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have been looking over the drafts for CSS 3.0, and they are
>>>> missing
>>>> a few
>>>> things that I had been hoping that I would see:
>>>>
>>>> -    the ability to achieve the same effect as the text-align
>>>> style, but for elements like div (i.e., to have the ability to
>>>> set a div to a certain
>>>> size and then center that div in its parent)
>>>
>>>
>>> What's the problem with
>>> div { width: 55%; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; }
>>> ?
>>>
>>> The only thing I'm wondering is if text-align: justify combined
>>> with inline-block elements can provide me with evenly spaced
>>> block-like elements without using extra wrapper elements.
>>
>> It's not about what's the problem with { width: 55%; margin-left:
>> auto; margin-right: auto; } it is that { align: center; } would be
>> much
>> shorter and make a lot more sense to a lot more people. When I
>> started using CSS with XHTML 1.1 I couldn't figure out why I had to
>> use margins
>> to align tables when in HTML I could do that with align="center".
>> Margins should not be used for alignment. We need to be able to
>> type { align: center; } !
>> And it should not be for tables and divisions only but also for
>> inline elements. That way you can center a div while the other
>> things on top
>> and under it will remain aligned to the left.
>> <Arthur/>
>
>But a width is necessary, else who's to know how wide the div 
>should be?
>
>Shoudld
>it wrap
>like this
>
>or should it spread across all the available width?
>
>AFAICsee,
>
>div {
>  margin: 0 auto;
>  width: 60%;
>}
>
>is fine. After all, centring something *does* require that the 
>margins be
>moved - that's what centring a block _is_!
>
>with
>div {align: center }
>how does the UI know how wide the div should be? There's 
>width= for IMG and
>table, but not div and so on.
>
>Matt
>
Received on Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:38:05 GMT

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