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cjk-ideographic list style : correction and addition

From: Jungshik Shin <jshin@mailaps.org>
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 17:36:21 +0900
Message-ID: <3E93DB85.7060808@mailaps.org>
To: www-style@w3.org

Hi,

I've just noticed that there are several mistakes in the latest WD of 
CSS module:list.
Somehow it appears that CJK ideographs for 'intances' of  CJK 
ideographic list style
got mixed up.  List 1 below is the correction I  made, but it needs to 
be  verified by
native Chinese/Japanese speakers. 

In addition,  I like to  suggest that two new 'instances' of CJK 
ideographic list style
for Korean, 'korean formal' and 'korean informal' be added  as listed in 
List 2.

Finally, I'm wondering why CJK ideographic list style has the upper limit of
only 10^16(10^16-1) when it's possible to represent numbers up to
10^72-1 with Chinese numbering system. Well, those large numbers are not
much of use, but ....  I'm not saying CSS3 should have them, but FYI,
I'm including all of them in List 3 as they're used in Korea. Chinese and
Japanese may use slightly different ones aside from  different variants
of ideographs being used.

Jungshik

Enc.:  1. Corrections to CJK ideographic list style
           2. Two new instances of CJK ideographic list style for Korean
           3. Chinese 'digits' beyond 10^12

List 1 : Corrections to CJK ideographic list style

* Japanese Informal
Second Digit Marker     萬      U+842C  => 十   U+5341
Third Digit Marker      億      U+5104  => 百   U+767E
Fourth Digit Marker     兆      U+5146  => 千   U+5343
Digit 0                 零      U+96F6
Digit 1                 壹      U+58F9  => 一   U+4E00
Digit 2                 贰      U+8D30  => 二   U+4E8C
Digit 3                 叁      U+53C1  => 三   U+4E09
Digit 4                 肆      U+8086  => 四   U+56DB
Digit 5                 伍      U+4F0D  => 五   U+4E94
Digit 6                 陆      U+9646  => 六   U+516D
Digit 7                 柒      U+67D2  => 七   U+4E03
Digit 8                 捌      U+634C  => 八   U+516B
Digit 9                 玖      U+7396  => 九   U+4E5D
                                                                               
                                                                               
* Simp-Chinese Formal
Second Group Marker     万      U+4E07
Third Group Marker      億      U+5104  => 亿   U+4EBF
Fourth Group Marker     兆      U+5146
Second Digit Marker     万      U+4E07  => 十   U+5341
Third Digit Marker      亿      U+4EBF  => 百   U+767E
Fourth Digit Marker     兆      U+5146  => 千   U+5343
                                                                               
* Simp-Chinese Informal
Second Group Marker     萬      U+842C =>  万   U+4E07
Third Group Marker      億      U+5104 =>  亿   U+4EBF
Fourth Group Marker     兆      U+5146
Second Digit Marker     萬      U+842C => 十 U+5341
Third Digit Marker      億      U+5104 => 百 U+767E
Fourth Digit Marker     兆      U+5146 => 千 U+5343
                                                                               
* trad-chinese-formal
Second Group Marker     万      U+4E07  => 萬   U+842C
Third Group Marker      亿      U+4EBF  => 億   U+5104
Fourth Group Marker     兆      U+5146
Second Digit Marker     万      U+4E07  => 拾   U+62FE
Third Digit Marker      亿      U+4EBF  => 百   U+767E
Fourth Digit Marker     兆      U+5146  => 千   U+5343
                                                                               
* trad-chinese-informal
Second Group Marker     萬      U+842C
Third Group Marker      億      U+5104
Fourth Group Marker     兆      U+5146
Second Digit Marker     萬      U+842C  => 十 U+5341
Third Digit Marker      億      U+5104  => 百 U+767E
Fourth Digit Marker     兆      U+5146  => 千 U+5343

List 2: Korean instances of CJK ideographic style
* korean-formal
Second Group Marker     萬      U+842C
Third Group Marker      億      U+5104
Fourth Group Marker     兆      U+5146
Second Digit Marker     拾      U+F973
Third Digit Marker      百      U+767E
Fourth Digit Marker     阡      U+9621    ?
Digit 0                 零      U+F9B2
Digit 1                 壹      U+58F9
Digit 2                 貳      U+8CB3
Digit 3                 參      U+F96B
Digit 4                 四      U+56DB
Digit 5                 伍      U+4F0D    ?
Digit 6                 六      U+516D
Digit 7                 七      U+4E03
Digit 8                 八      U+516B
Digit 9                 九      U+4E5D
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
* korean-informal
Second Group Marker     萬      U+842C
Third Group Marker      億      U+5104
Fourth Group Marker     兆      U+5146
Second Digit Marker     十      U+5341
Third Digit Marker      百      U+767E
Fourth Digit Marker     千      U+5343
Digit 0                 零      U+F9B2
Digit 1                 一      U+4E00
Digit 2                 二      U+4E8C
Digit 3                 三      U+4E09
Digit 4                 四      U+56DB
Digit 5                 五      U+4E94
Digit 6                 六      U+516D
Digit 7                 七      U+4E03
Digit 8                 八      U+516B
Digit 9                 九      U+4E5D


List 3:  Chinese digits beyond 10^12
 5th Group Marker (10^16)       京     U+4EAC
 6th Group Marker (10^20)       垓     U+5793
 7th Group Marker (10^24)       枾     U+67BE  [1]
 8th Group Marker (10^28)       穰     U+7A70
 9th Group Marker (10^32)       溝     U+6E9D
10th Group Marker (10^36)       澗     U+6F97
11th Group Marker (10^40)       正     U+6B63
12th Group Marker (10^44)       載     U+8F09
13th Group Marker (10^48)       極     U+6975
14th Group Marker (10^52)       恒河沙       U+6052 U+6CB3 U+6C99
15th Group Marker (10^56)       阿僧祗       U+963F U+50E7 U+7957
16th Group Marker (10^60)       那由他       U+90A3 U+7531 U+4ED6
17th Group Marker (10^64)       不可思議    U+4E0D U+53EF U+601D U+8B70 [2]
18th Group Marker (10^68)       無量大數    U+7121 U+91CF U+5927 U+6578
 
[1] There are two other variants and I'm not sure which one to use.
 7th Group Marker (10^24)       抒     U+6292
 7th Group Marker (10^24)       秭     U+79ED
 
[2] For Korean, this should be used instead.
17th Group Marker (10^64)       不可思議    U+F967 U+53EF U+601D U+8B70
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