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Re: X11 Colors (was Last call comments on CSS3 module: color)

From: Jon Ferraiolo <Jon.Ferraiolo@adobe.com>
Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:05:45 -0400 (EDT)
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To: Dean Jackson <dean@w3.org>, "Stefan Goessner (MecXpert)" <goessner@mecxpert.de>
Cc: www-style@w3.org, www-svg@w3.org

One thing to note is what's happening with SVG 1.1 and these X11 color 
keywords. For SVG 1.1:

SVG 1.1 Full: Supports X11 color keywords
SVG 1.1 Basic/Tiny: Only support 16 color keywords also found in HTML spec

So, one "simple" approach from a standards perspective is to just accept 
the full set of X11 color keywords for CSS3 (full profile) but require only 
the 16 color keywords from the HTML spec in CSS3 Mobile. I say "simple" 
because this is consistent with the SVG 1.0 Recommendation and some 
existing momentum in the CSS group, plus it puts the burden of the extra 
storage for the 300 or so color names only on fat clients but not the 
mobile clients.


At 03:19 AM 5/29/2002 +1000, Dean Jackson wrote:
>On Tue, 28 May 2002, Stefan Goessner (MecXpert) wrote:
> > .. please can someone explain to those of us here at www-svg, what exactly
> > is the problem with the X11 colors. personally i use them for over a year
> > extensively with my svg files and really don't want to have my code broken
> > some time.
>Don't worry just yet. I haven't seen anyone suggest we remove
>X11 colors from SVG, only deprecate them. Besides, SVG 1.0 is
>a Recommendation, so we can't do much to it anway. I'm sure
>that all SVG viewers will support X11 colors forever regardless
>of what the specification says, simply because there is already
>a huge amount of content out there that uses them. My guess at
>the likelyhood of your code breaking (due to X11 colors anyway ;) is
> > sure .. i can start reading all of the thread at www-style .. but a short
> > summery of the discussion so far when involving us here would help a lot.
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