RE: conformance (was layout solutions blah blah blah)

Tantek & Jesse,

This discussion has been very interesting to follow.  I'm glad to see
that it did not turn into any sort of flame war, and that it actually
yeilded some positive results.  My hat's off to both of you.  :)

Regards,
Peter Foti



> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-style-request@w3.org [mailto:www-style-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Tantek Celik
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:35 PM
> To: Jesse McCarthy; www-style@w3.org
> Subject: Re: conformance (was layout solutions blah blah blah)
> 
> 
> From: Jesse McCarthy <mccarthy36@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: conformance (was layout solutions blah blah blah)
> Date: Fri, Jan 25, 2002, 8:58 AM
> 
> > If that's how you feel about it, perhaps you should refer 
> to my message of
> > December 19 which I sent to this list and to you personally 
> -- which,
> > interestingly enough, you made no response to -- that 
> contains a URL to a
> > valid example that, thanks to the log entry included in the message,
> > _clearly_ demonstrates the statement:
> >
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2001Dec/0025.html
> 
> Much better.  Quoting from that message (which must have 
> gotten lost amongst
> a deluge of spam):
> 
> > Did you fix the bug with @import statements including a url 
> construct
> > containing a single quoted (maybe double quoted as well for 
> all I know)
> > string?
> >
> > e.g.
> >
> > @import url( './modules/CSS/web.css' );
> >
> > (if the next part breaks, it is a single line from an 
> Apache access log)
> >
> > XX.XXX.XXX.XX - - [07/Nov/2001:07:14:10 -0800] "GET /resume/val/'.
> > /modules/CSS/web.css' HTTP/1.1" 404 240 "http://www.jmmcc.
> > com/resume/val/resume.php?version=web" "Mozilla/4.0 
> (compatible; MSIE 5.0;
> > Mac_PowerPC)" PID4391
> >
> >
> > Or see for yourself -- http://www.jmmcc.com/resume/
> >
> > --> Jesse
> 
> Now how sad is that?
> 
> No, it does not appear to have been fixed in IE5.1/Mac.
> 
> But this was simply a one line change to fix - something that 
> would have
> been trivial to fix had we known sooner - and something which 
> is now fixed
> in internal builds.
> 
> In addition, the example you gave does work in IE6/Windows.
> 
> Thanks again for the example Jesse and please keep them coming.
> 
> 
> I'll use this discussion as a opportunity to plug the 
> recently published
> Selectors Test Suite and the updated CSS1 Test Suite, both of 
> which can be
> accessed from the CSS Test Suite home page[1].
> 
> I implore folks on this list to please review these tests (in 
> particular
> Selectors), and let the list know if you find anything 
> missing from them
> which is present in the specification.
> 
> If an example like Jesse's had been present in the original 
> CSS1 Test Suite
> then IE5/Mac (as well as other implementations) would have 
> better conformed
> with the feature set of CSS1.
> 
> Making sure that a test suite properly provides coverage for 
> the features of
> its respective spec is critical in helping to ensure better 
> conformance (and
> interoperability) among implementations.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tantek
> 
> [1]
>  http://w3.org/Style/CSS/Test/
> 
> 

Received on Friday, 25 January 2002 17:14:53 UTC