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Re: css layout should be symmetrical

From: Robert Koberg <rob@koberg.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:28:18 -0800
Message-ID: <058401c1b95a$1175c2d0$8501a8c0@TILLER>
To: "Vadim Plessky" <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru>
Cc: <www-style@w3.org>
Howdy,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vadim Plessky" <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru>


> On Tuesday 19 February 2002 14:51, Robert Koberg wrote:
> |   Hi,
> |
> |   I have been following this thread with great interest. I want to
Believe.
> | A few months ago I had took a contract to setup a website. One of my
> | responsibilities was to create the XSLT templates for transformation
from
> | XML to HTML (using CSS too). I am curious how you would handle the
> | situation where the design DEMANDs tables to lay out properly. Can you
use
> | CSS (1, 2 or 3) to lay out this site:
> |   http://teenlearningnetwork.com/ - should work in all 4th gen plus
> | browsers, cross-platform
>
> 4th generation browsers are indeed a problem.
> But you still can use CSS in ver.4 browsers!
>
actually, I was wondering if it was possible at all with CSS. The main
problem I see is image alignment. The borders for the boxes - is there a way
to specify  images for the corners and sides? Also the layout needs things
to be exactly positioned so the design looks Right. With CSS, things float
around too much for this design.

> |
> |   There are several things wrong with this site and I argued them to the
> |   producers and designers (flash, nested tables, fixed width, etc). They
> | make the decisions. I have to follow orders. Do you suggest we should
just
> | Say No to these things and wait for a job where the designer will design
> | things properly?
>
> well, if you do web design for fun - you should Say Goodbuy to htis
client.
> If you work for money - you need to follow.
>
> I found (personal opinion) that it's better to get money in some business,
> sometimes not related to IT or Web at all, and to re-invest those money in
> your hobby and volunteer work.
> I hardly believe that I could buy a car I drive nowdays if I was doing web
> design :-)

My loft in south of market San Francisco needs it's mortgage paid, and
website work still is the most fun and profitable job I have had :) I can't
seem to make any money sailing or golfing :) What's weird is that these
producers/designers find the front-end work I do to be way more valueable
than java or hard-core Internet work. They want their Photoshop'ed designs
to look like they look in Photoshop. They pay well, at least in SF.

>
> |
> |   Is this group mostly theoretical?
>
> I would say that www-style is less teoretical than www-dom and more
> teoretical than www-html.
> Everything is *relative* in this world :-)
> But indeed primary focus of ww-style ML is to discuss W3C CSS specs, not
> day-to-day design issues. Hopefully we do not ignore those issues and
discuss
> them too.

cool, thanks,
-Rob
Received on Tuesday, 19 February 2002 10:31:14 GMT

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