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Re: css3-lists: Coptic and Ionic Greek

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:18:25 +0000 (GMT)
To: Christos Cheretakis <xalkina@otenet.gr>
Cc: Web Style Sheets W3C Mailing List <www-style@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0212161706240.17087-100000@dhalsim.dreamhost.com>

On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Christos Cheretakis wrote:
>>
>> As I understand it, there are three greek-related 'numbering' systems:
>>
>>  * the traditional greek that you want adding (I think someone mailed an
>>    algorithm of this system to the list; if they didn't then I'll 
>>    need one for when I add the system to the spec)
> 
> Actually, that's three of them.

Ah, ok.

So there are five greek-related list-style-types.


>> Now, CSS2 gives the name 'lower-greek' to the second one of these, and
>> that has already been implemented, so we're stuck with that.
> 
> Yep, I know. Standard bodies do never correct their mistakes. They
> just call it backwards compatibility ;-) Copy-pasting from my local
> copy of REC-CSS2-19980512, which I think is not the latest revision,
> but is the best one at hand right now: [...]

Well we could change it I guess. But I'd rather not as it is already
interoperably implemented, so changing it is expensive and will make the
values unusable for a period of time.


> Googling for "list-style-type" and "lower-greek" makes me quite happy 
> as I mostly get to pages describing CSS2, a page from a Netscape 
> employee describing their implementation, but no serious use of the 
> numbering style named "lower-greek" till now.

Note that google often doesn't give results for stylesheet content.


> In my previous postings I've described three greek styles:
> - lower(-modern)-greek
> - upper(-modern)-greek
> - ancient-greek, or lower-ancient-greek, if you prefer

Ok. I just looked through my mail archives and I have about 7 different
variations of the algorithm and various different tables. Could you
provide an algorithm for each of these, in English, in the style of the
other algorithms given in:

   http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-lists/#algorithmic

...including the unicode codepoints for each character, and some examples?
That would be most helpful.


> I'm using a C-style description [...]

Please don't. :-) Many of the readers of the spec do not understand C, and
I have had bad experiences trying to translate an algorithm from code into
english.


> I know this could be more structured, but I'm not trying to do my 
> best coding here. Steps 4-7 would make a great do-until candidate.

Optimisation is _not_ a concern here. _All_ that matters is
readability. So please, do not worry about that at _all_!

Cheers,
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