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Visual effects

From: Matthew Brealey <thelawnet@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:19:35 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <20000126091935.10010.qmail@web903.mail.yahoo.com>
To: www-style <www-style@w3.org>
<blockquote>
The outline is drawn starting just outside the border edge.

... [I]f the element is broken across several lines, the outline is the
minimum outline that encloses all the element's boxes.
</blockquote>

These two statements are contradictory. Outlines are drawn outside the
border edge, but borders are associated with em squares, not boxes.
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Visibility:
I would like to propose the following changes to visibility:
<blockquote>
'visibility'
Value:  
visible | hidden | collapse | inherit
Initial:  
inherit
[change to visible]
Applies to:  
all elements
Inherited:  
no
[change to yes]
Percentages:  
N/A
Media:  
visual
The 'visibility' property specifies whether the boxes generated by an
element are rendered. [change to 
The 'visibility' property specifies whether the boxes generated by an
element are transparent.] 
Invisible boxes still affect layout (set the 'display' property to 'none'
to suppress box generation altogether). 
[change to 
Transparent boxes still affect layout (set the 'display' property to
'none' to suppress box generation altogether).]

Values have the following meanings:
visible
The generated box is visible.
[change to 'The colours of the generated box are honoured.']
hidden
The generated box is invisible (fully transparent), but still affects
layout.
[change to 'The colours of the generated box are not honoured but instead
are all transparent.']
</blockquote>

Note this is precisely equivalent to the current specification, except its
meaning is clearer (there is a problem with clarity with almost the whole
of the visual effects section) and does not require UAs to have HTML
{visibility: visible} (something that is missing from Mozilla's html.css incidentally).

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