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Re: Why is the W3c so 'closed'?

From: Frank Boumphrey <bckman@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:05:13 -0500
Message-ID: <007001bf3851$efcc18e0$9baddccf@preferreduser>
To: "Ethan Fremen" <mindlace@majordomo.net>, "Matthew Brealey" <thelawnet@yahoo.com>
Cc: "www-style" <www-style@w3.org>
> Alternatively, you can pay the US$5k a year to join.  The process isn't
> closed, it's just not "open to all".

Alternatively you can join the HTML Writers guild who are Active members of
the W3C. If you become a member while you do not have free access to the W3C
pages, you do have free access to HWG's specialized mailing lists, and the
HWG representatives on the W3C working groups will actively voice your
inputs and concerns.

If you decide to become active in HWG activities, you may even end up on a
W3C working group your self!


(HWG representative on the HTML WG)

----- Original Message -----
From: Ethan Fremen <mindlace@majordomo.net>
To: Matthew Brealey <thelawnet@yahoo.com>
Cc: www-style <www-style@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Why is the W3c so 'closed'?

> Matthew Brealey wrote:
> > Closed processes suck.
> > Open processes suck.
> > Perhaps someone would like to point out the major
> > logical error?!
> The major logical error is that MS and NS were the two big browser
> companies.  As browser makers, they're free to write their HTML parser
> any way they like, and for at least the time of HTML 2.0-3.0, that's
> exactly what they did. The W3C did what they could to address their
> concerns in order to get them writing parsers that complied with
> Recommendations. This is A Good Thing.
> This is becoming more of a reality today than ever before.  If you care
> to get more actively involved in the implementation of browsers and
> standards, you can work for the Mozilla group (www.mozilla.org).  I'm
> sure that if you start contributing substantively with those folks,
> you'll start to see some of the W3C's work in action.
> Alternatively, you can pay the US$5k a year to join.  The process isn't
> closed, it's just not "open to all".
> --
> Ethan "mindlace" Fremen
> you cannot abdicate responsibility
> for your ideology.
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