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Re: Re: Q: z-index and the body element

From: gordon <gordon@quartz.gly.fsu.edu>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:35:02 -0700
Message-ID: <001101bef2f4$d8f799c0$5c5d0418@vista1.sdca.home.com>
To: <www-style@w3.org>
Since the sheet/idea being delt with here is applied to HTML, shouldn't the
rules take it [HTML] into account?  This may sound simplistic, but it's my
understanding that the only sibling for a body element is the head element.
There are more than enough legacy problems with HTML rendering; CSS
shouldn't be used to create yet another.

later,
gordon

----- Original Message -----
From: Ranjit Singhe <ranjit_singhe@mail.com>
To: <www-style@w3.org>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 6:36 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Q: z-index and the body element


> hi,
>
> (Tantek: i do agree with you that the spec says z-index is only for
> *positioned* elements, but as Ian says, i don't see why it cannot be
applied
> for static boxes which overlap due to negative margins.)
>
> look at the following markup:
>
> ------
> <body style="z-index=0; background-color=green;">
>
> <p style="z-index=-1; position: relative; top: 50; left: 20">
> hello!!
> </p>
> <p>
> world!!
> </p>
> </body>
> -------
>
> P is a child of BODY, and according the CSS2 spec (my reading, anyway :)
> z-indexing of an element is relative only to sibling elements, and not to
> parent elements.  this has to do with the creation of a z-index contexts.
>
> so the box for 'hello!!' would show up behind the box for 'world!!' but
NOT
> behind the box for BODY because BODY contains both P element boxes.
>
> !!! please correct if i'm wrong on this, because if i am, i have to redo
my
> renderer so that it does not respect hierarchical boundaries, which is NOT
a
> happy situation.  !!!
>
> the original intent of this thread (the question) can be attained by
making
> the 'z-index=-1' box a 'position: fixed' box (though the positioning
> properties would be complex.)  this would work because fixed boxes break
out
> of the hierarchy where they are found and levitate to the viewport box,
> essentially becoming a sibling to the BODY box.
>
> -- ranjit
>
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: "Tantek Celik" <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>
> To: Ian Hickson<py8ieh=www-style@bath.ac.uk>, Axel
> Dahmen<a.dahmen@infozoom.de>
> Sent: August 30, 1999 3:17:00 AM GMT
> Subject: Re: Q: z-index and the body element
>
>
> >> I've got a question regarding the z-index property: Why can I still see
> >> elements which I've put *behind* the BODY element (see example below)?
> >
> > Because your browser has a bug or doesn't support z-index.
>
> Or the browser *doesn't* have a bug and is properly ignoring z-index on
> non-positioned elements.
>
> >> <BODY STYLE="z-index: 0; background-color: #456789;">
> >> <P STYLE="z-index: -1; color: #fedcba;">This is a test showing a text
> that
> >> shouldn't be visible as it lies behind the body element <EM>("z-index"
> >> property equals "-1").</EM>
> >> </BODY>
>
> In the example given, both elements which have a z-index *do not* have
their
> position property set, and since according to:
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/visuren.html#z-index
>
> the z-index property "Applies to: positioned elements", the settings on
the
> z-index property are ignored.
>
> Tantek
>
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Received on Monday, 30 August 1999 10:35:04 GMT

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