- From: Bijan Parsia <bparsia@isr.umd.edu>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:14:53 -0400
- To: Michael Kifer <kifer@cs.sunysb.edu>
- Cc: www-rdf-rules@w3.org
On Jun 29, 2005, at 11:36 PM, Michael Kifer wrote: > Bijan Parsia: >> >>> This reminds me of the early days of SQL. Back then people believed >>> that practitioners will actually understand the semantics *and use >>> it*. >> >> I wonder if Date et al would diagnose things the same way. >> >> (Actually, I don't wonder. I so believe :)) Er...I so believe he wouldn't. That was unclear. > Date was not an inventor of SQL, I know. He's just rather famous for his screeds against it. E.g., the third manifesto: http://web.onetel.com/~hughdarwen/TheThirdManifesto/ And, of course, the entertaining Fabian Pascal: http://www.dbdebunk.com/index.html > but I don't see why he or any other author > of a database textbook (myself included!) should be anything but fond > of SQL. > After all, its screwy nature helps the bottom line. > > But Jim Gray gave a speech at PODS/SIGMOD in 1999 where he said: > I invented it, and I apologize. And then Date, "hey, that's not good enough": http://web.onetel.com/~hughdarwen/TheThirdManifesto/CJD-on-A-Call-to- Arms.html :) I'll note, for the record, that our vitrol *clearly* doesn't measure up! Cheers, Bijan Parsia.
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