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Re: Summary of the QName to URI Mapping Problem

From: Jonathan Borden <jborden@mediaone.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 02:49:19 -0400
Message-ID: <008601c123c4$232d0640$0301a8c0@ne.mediaone.net>
To: <Patrick.Stickler@nokia.com>, <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
Cc: <www-rdf-logic@w3.org>



> > >You could, but I don't think that is a valid position considering
> > >the global scope intended for the SW.
> >
> > Well, I see your point, but I think that the SW is going to have to
> > face up to the fact that information from several sources is liable
> > to produce inconsistencies, and find ways of living with that. One
> > thing that we surely cannot do is somehow guarantee that people will
> > always agree with one another about everything. And once this
> > possibility is allowed, and people are given reasonably expressive
> > ways of saying things, they can contradict themselves. Tough, but
> > true.

true, of course you don't really want to -design- a system where people who
are following two tremendously popular W3C recommendations, namely XML 1.0
itself and XML Namespaces, ones that have been universally implemented and
distributed by -millions- if not -billions- of software programs (e.g.
copies of IE, Mozilla, Apache etc), to be in direct contradistiction to yet
another W3C recommendation in use in ? hundreds ? of places (e.g. RDF).

it gets back to Authority. in my book authority is working code. you get to
do your designing -before- not after something becomes widely popular. Hence
there is no opportunity to redesign XML  and XML Namespaces e.g. QNames, yet
there is a real opportunity to redesign RDF. Indeed if this were done
correctly RDF might become popular.

> Hey, let's just throw out namespaces and just use the names, since
> any collisions and ambiguity that would result has to be dealt with
> anyway by SW agents -- after all, we can't ensure consistency, eh?

Turn your back on XML and I, and others, have great ways of integrating XML
and s-expressions ... s-expressions can deal with XML Namespaces just fine!
In this light, there are excellent ways to do KR using XML itself, so the
word is yet out regarding how the semantic web will get implemented.

Off to the beach ... my beach has no URI, so I'll see ya when I get back :-)

-Jonathan
Received on Friday, 17 August 2001 11:52:34 GMT

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