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Re: What if an URI also is a URL

From: Oskar Welzl <lists@welzl.info>
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:18:34 +0200
To: www-rdf-interest@w3.org
Cc: Reto Bachmann-Gmür <rbg@talis.com>
Message-Id: <1188245914.8515.16.camel@jupiter.hormayrgasse>

Thank you for helping me on... the only point I don't get is:

> Oskar Welzl wrote:
> > c) Consequently, if I want to make a reference to my weblog (meaning the
> > thing as such, a collection of all posts, pictures, the services offered
> > etc.), I'd better not use http://oskar.twoday.net as this would only
> > refer to one single HTML-document. In particular, the document served at
> > http://oskar.twoday.net might have been dc:created yesterday, while the
> > weblog as such started 2003.
> > I'd have to make up something like http://oskar.twoday.net/id/thisblog
> > and maybe state somewhere that http://oskar.twoday.net/id/thisblog has
> > an indexDocument http://oskar.twoday.net 
> >   
> I think there might be a confusion between the resource
> <http://oskar.twoday.net/> and the representation returned by the
> webserver. A Blog is an Information Resource which could be described as
> an ordered collection of posts, the HTML returned by the webserver is
> (or should be) a suitable representation of that thing. Depending on the
> current time as well as the properties of the request the server may
> deliver different representations of an invariable resource.

So while I thought <http://oskar.twoday.net/> shouldnt be used to refer
to the Blog as "the collection of posts", you seem to say now that the
HTML-document returned by the server might well be taken as a suitable
representation of it. Therefore (if I understand you correctly),
<http://oskar.twoday.net/> *can* be used in RDF to refer to the thing
known as "Oskars Blog" in the real world.

Now isnt this a direct contradiction to the starting point, when TBL

> The moment a server returns 200 OK for a request to the URI, it is  
> saying it identifies a document.

Identifiying a document is not the same as identifying a blog, even if
the document is part of the blog. I can make statements about this one
document that are not true for the blog and vice versa.

Whats the point I'm missing? Or am I being fussy here again? ;)

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