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RE: RSS data transience and the semantic web

From: Lisa Seeman <lisa@ubaccess.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:55:25 +0300
To: 'Dan Zambonini' <dan.zambonini@boxuk.com>, "'DuCharme, Bob (LNG-CHO)'" <bob.ducharme@lexisnexis.com>, www-rdf-interest@w3.org
Message-id: <05c201c48b4a$712753a0$340aa8c0@lisaibm>

Side point on RSS feeds, 

We need to be attaching an RDF accessibility conformance statement (such
as EARL) to RSS data, so that a site will have a guarantee of the
accessibility level for the data content. Otherwise the accessibility of
the site using the feed is compromised.

Are people doing that yet?

Of course the end site can always lower the accessibility level of the
content, but that would be their problem.


Lisa Seeman


> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Dan Zambonini
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:26 AM
> To: DuCharme, Bob (LNG-CHO); www-rdf-interest@w3.org
> Subject: RE: RSS data transience and the semantic web
> 
> 
> 
> Very interesting question...
> 
> >From my perspective, it's not the transience of the RSS data that 
> >reduces its usefulness (for the semantic web), but the lack 
> of URIs.  
> >The exciting part of the semantic 'web' (for me!) is the 
> >inter-relationships of data/values - whereas most RSS data contains 
> >largely string literals for the title/description, and no statements 
> >that contain purely URIs for all three parts of the 
> statement (unless 
> >extending RSS with say Dublin Core).  This doesn't allow for 
> much of a 
> >'web' of data to be constructed (although RSS does demonstrate the 
> >usefulness of web metadata - maybe we can use it as a 
> stepping stone to 
> >getting people to create richer metadata?).
> 
> Just my 2p.
> 
> --------------------------------------
> Dan Zambonini
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org] On > Behalf Of 
> DuCharme, Bob (LNG-CHO)
> Sent: 25 August 2004 19:21
> To: 'www-rdf-interest@w3.org'
> Subject: RSS data transience and the semantic web
> 
> What role can RSS 1.0 play in the semantic web considering 
> the transience of the data? Most data in RSS files today 
> won't be there a month from now, as the files get updated 
> until today's items fall off the list. Can any connections 
> that would be useful for a web of information get built from 
> such data? 
>  
> It would seem sensible for sites to offer archives of their 
> own RSS feeds, but I don't know of any that do. (I tried 
> searching for a few at archive.org, and it never had more 
> than 6 per year for any feed. A surprising amount of the ones 
> I tried couldn't be stored there because of a robots.txt 
> exclusion.) Is the application developer expected to archive 
> all data harvested from crawls? Does anyone know of any 
> applications that are doing this with RSS data? 
>  
> Or do we just consider RSS 1.0 to be an RDF application 
> that's independent of the semantic web? 
>  
> just curious,
>  
> Bob DuCharme   www.snee.com/bob       <bob@  
> snee.com> weblog on linking-related topics: 
> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/1191
> 
> 
Received on Thursday, 26 August 2004 08:55:02 UTC

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