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Re: [Introspector-developers] RE: Call for a DotGNU/W3C RDF API (was Re:GPL relicense for Eule r (was Re: call for alpha testers EulerSharp for dotgnu/pnet))

From: Jos De_Roo <jos.deroo@agfa.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:00:31 +0100
To: "James Michael DuPont <mdupont777" <mdupont777@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Seaborne, Andy" <Andy_Seaborne@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, "'developers@dotgnu.org'" <developers@dotgnu.org>, "'introspectors'" <introspector-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>, Jos De_Roo <jos.deroo@agfa.com>, "'minddog@cannibutter.com'" <minddog@cannibutter.com>, "'Stephen Compall'" <s11@member.fsf.org>, "'www-rdf-interest@w3.org'" <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>, www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org
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Well, the ideas we met are all having a similar pattern
of a testcase i.e.
  given X then it is the *case* that Y
and then just abstract away some details and put
that in an n3 files (and call it a theory ;-)).

I'm sure that will work out for your tescases as well
(just think about asserting what you hold as being the
case and running is then just getting evidence for a
testcase (seen as your query) or a "no proof found"
as some semantic web bus communication mechanism)


-- ,
Jos De Roo, AGFA http://www.agfa.com/w3c/jdroo/



                                                                                                                   
                    James Michael                                                                                  
                    DuPont               To:     Jos De_Roo/AMDUS/MOR/Agfa-NV/BE/BAYER@AGFA                        
                    <mdupont777@ya       cc:     "Seaborne, Andy" <Andy_Seaborne@hplb.hpl.hp.com>,                 
                    hoo.com>              "'developers@dotgnu.org'" <developers@dotgnu.org>, "'introspectors'"     
                                          <introspector-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>,                         
                    2003-02-13            "'minddog@cannibutter.com'" <minddog@cannibutter.com>, "'Stephen         
                    12:12 PM              Compall'" <s11@member.fsf.org>, "'www-rdf-interest@w3.org'"              
                                          <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>, www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org               
                                         Subject:     Re: [Introspector-developers] RE: Call for a DotGNU/W3C RDF  
                                          API  (was Re:GPL relicense for Eule r (was Re: call for alpha testers    
                                          EulerSharp for dotgnu/pnet))                                             
                                                                                                                   




Thanks!
I am very impressed by the speed of Euler,
and I think that Pnet can make it faster!

Gopal V. and I have been discussing making a super fast version of
Euler
that uses the native il stack, I am not very good at optimizations, but
Rhys and Gopal are the masters of it, and know the entire Pnet system
in  and out.

I am happy that you can make it to the chat.

Mario Luca and I are currently experimenting with CWM, Euler and Prolog
for the processing of the introspector GCC RDF.

We would like to work out a way that we can write a set of proofs
that assert the true relationships defined in the GCC model, and try
and generate a set of OWL/Daml, Euler, CWM and Prolog rules that can
execute them and prove them based on the GCC RDF output of the
introspector. Maybe you have some ideas about that?

--- Jos De_Roo <jos.deroo@agfa.com> wrote:
>
> i'll try to attend the morning session if possible
> i've done part of the alphatesting with the latest
>
http://introspector.sourceforge.net/debian/incoming/eulersharp_0.1-1.tar.gz
> while using
> http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/dotgnu-pnet/pnet-0.5.2.tar.gz
> http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/dotgnu-pnet/pnetlib-0.5.2.tar.gz
> http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/dotgnu-pnet/treecc-0.2.2.tar.gz
> and haven't found any major issues yet
> but am deeply impressed about all that running code...
>
> -- ,
> Jos De Roo, AGFA http://www.agfa.com/w3c/jdroo/
>
>
>
>
>                     James Michael DuPont
>
>                     <mdupont777@yahoo.com       To:     "Seaborne,
> Andy" <Andy_Seaborne@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, "'Stephen
>                     >                            Compall'"
> <s11@member.fsf.org>
>                     Sent by:                    cc:
> "'introspectors'"
>                     www-rdf-interest-requ
> <introspector-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>,
>
>                     est@w3.org
> "'minddog@cannibutter.com'" <minddog@cannibutter.com>,
>
>
> "'www-rdf-interest@w3.org'" <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>,
>
>
> "'developers@dotgnu.org'" <developers@dotgnu.org>
>
>                     2003-02-13 11:20 AM         Subject:     Re:
> [Introspector-developers] RE: Call for a DotGNU/W3C RDF
>                                                  API  (was Re:GPL
> relicense for Eule r (was Re: call for alpha testers
>                                                  EulerSharp for
> dotgnu/pnet))
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I would like to see a strong alignment between the C# and Java
> interfaces.
>
> From the dotgnu perspective, Java is on the radar big time.
>
> The Dotgnu project is working on being able to compile Java to IL,
> and
> we should be able to have Java code using the C# API.
>
> The problem may be with the basic collection and uri classes,
> we need to look into that in detail. There are a couple of ways that
> we
> can try and align those interface, but in the end, people will not
> want
> to learn a new api.
>
> Many people use and like the Jena interface, and in some cases, it is
> on the leading edge in RDF technology.
>
> Please do suggest your times, otherwise, why dont we try and make
> this
> weekends first dotgnu meeting. I am sure we can piggyback on top of
> them There has been no confirmation from anyone on times.
>
> The meetings are conducted via IRC in the channel
> #dotgnu on irc.openprojects.net at the following
> times:
>
>     Saturday 1000 UTC
>     Saturday 2200 UTC
>
> The first is best for DotGNU members east of UTC
> and the second is best for DotGNU members west
> of UTC.  Some of the key DotGNU members attend
> both meetings.
>
> The logs of #dotgnu are always available here:
>
> http://ajmitch.dhis.org/dotgnu/
>
> --- "Seaborne, Andy" <Andy_Seaborne@hplb.hpl.hp.com> wrote:
> >
> > We'd like to be involved (even though we're in Java) but the
> > timezones may
> > intrude.  We can always look at the chat logs.
> >
> > If there was a common processing model underlying such an RDF
> > interface
> > (nothing too complicated), this could be the style used by other
> > languages,
> > getting some alignment.
> >
> >          Andy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Michael DuPont [mailto:mdupont777@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: 11 February 2003 15:16
> > To: James Michael DuPont; Stephen Compall; Jos De_Roo
> > Cc: introspectors; Jos De_Roo; minddog@cannibutter.com;
> > www-rdf-interest@w3.org; developers@dotgnu.org
> > Subject: Re: Call for a DotGNU/W3C RDF API (was Re:GPL relicense
> for
> > Euler
> > (was Re: call for alpha testers EulerSharp for dotgnu/pnet))
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > After many offline (chat) discussion about the idea of a DotGNU
> > contribution of a RDF C# Interface, I would like to request that we
> > have a chat meeting where all the interested parties sit down
> > together.
> >
> > For me the best time would be on the weekend, on the 15th or the
> 22th
> > of deb. But I noticed that the w3c meetings are generally during
> the
> > week, that is a problem for many of the dotgnu members.
> >
> > What do you think? Who would like to be involved? I would like to
> get
> > one member from the various rdf implementations there,  the is the
> > most
> > important part. We need your support!
> >
> > please feed back,
> > mike
>
>
>
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