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RE: RDF vocabulary definitions - typology

From: Vladimir Rykov <rykov-ont@narod.ru>
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 16:38:16 +0300
To: "Richard H. McCullough" <rhm@cdepot.net>
Cc: "RDF-Interest" <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>
Message-ID: <PMEKLEDHHNBCANDPBMKGIEHDCAAA.rykov-ont@narod.ru>
Outer properties in my case were Informative prose/Imaginative prose - then
Newspaper articles - reportage, review, editorial (and other divisions and
subdivisions of these two kinds of prose). One example - my computer told me
that newspaper reportage according to its inner merits is in fiction
cluster. I looked at this text - it was reportage about Kennedy inauguration
...

  In this book published in 70s or 80s the author treats as outer properties
the descriptions of the place were the pieces were found. He assumes that
some products (pots, jewelry) could be moved (bought, robbered) from one
culture (i.e. place) to another. He compares these two classifications with
remarkable results. He says that only such a kind of comparison makes
classification really reasonable.

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Best regards,
 Vladimir

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Vladimir Rykov, PhD in Computational Linguistics,
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org
[mailto:www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Richard H. McCullough
  Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:57 PM
  To: Vladimir Rykov
  Cc: m.spork@qut.edu.au; RDF-Interest
  Subject: Re: RDF vocabulary definitions - typology


  Your English is perfectly understandable.

  Your example of an inner property of text (number of pronouns) is clear.
  Could you give me some examples of outer properties, i.e., what are
"genres" in this case?

  I assume that "typology" is the standard cross-classification of (inner
properties) x (outer properties).
  ============
  Dick McCullough
  knowledge := man do identify od existent done
  knowledge haspart list of proposition

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Vladimir Rykov
    To: Richard H. McCullough ; m.spork@qut.edu.au ; www-rdf-interest@w3.org
    Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:51 AM
    Subject: RE: RDF vocabulary definitions - typology



        Mr McCullough - you can find this book by its name. I forgotten the
author. Not earlier then 80s.

       To the matter.

       I explain how I used his idea. I had a corpus of texts classified
into genres etc. It was outer classification. I took these texts and counted
with computer their innner properties (the number of pronouns, etc) and I
got a cluster classification tree. Then I compared it with outer
classification. It was very informative. The French guy said that only this
final classification is typology.

    The Author wrote (he is arche...ist) - "we dig remnants  ..." Actually
they did the same. They try to classify what they digged in various places
as if they do not know their origin. Then they compare their classification
with outer classification - from which places the pieces of pots, jewelry
were found. It was really remarkable and brought them lots of info.

     I did understand him - but I am not sure you'll understand my awful
English.

     Vladimir Rykov
    PhD in Computational Linguistics
    rykov.narod.ru

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Richard H. McCullough [mailto:rhm@cdepot.net]
      Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:10 PM
      To: Vladimir Rykov; m.spork@qut.edu.au; www-rdf-interest@w3.org
      Subject: Re: RDF vocabulary definitions - typology


      I would have to hear some more details to be sure, but it sounds like
the book is talking about intensive (properties of entities) and extensive
(entities) classifications.  These two aspects of entities are really
inseparable, so if you try to separate them you are apt to get nonsensical
results.
      If this "typology" is something else, I'd like to hear more about it.
      ============
      Dick McCullough
      knowledge := man do identify od existent done
      knowledge haspart list of proposition

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Vladimir Rykov
        To: m.spork@qut.edu.au ; Richard H. McCullough ;
www-rdf-interest@w3.org
        Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:57 PM
        Subject: RE: RDF vocabulary definitions - typology


        If I may intrude into wise discussion.

          I read Russian translation of French book - Theoretical
Archeology.

          The guy said there - there are two kinds of classifications -
based on
        inner and outer features of objects. Then we compare/match these
        classifications. The result is a kind of super-classification called
        typology.

          Vladimir Rykov

         rykov.narod.ru
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