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Re: RDF vocabulary definitions - typology

From: Richard H. McCullough <rhm@cdepot.net>
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 03:57:10 -0800
Message-ID: <001a01c29479$c95e4f70$bd7ba8c0@rhm8200>
To: "Vladimir Rykov" <rykov-ont@narod.ru>
Cc: <m.spork@qut.edu.au>, "RDF-Interest" <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>
Your English is perfectly understandable.

Your example of an inner property of text (number of pronouns) is clear.
Could you give me some examples of outer properties, i.e., what are "genres" in this case?

I assume that "typology" is the standard cross-classification of (inner properties) x (outer properties).
============ 
Dick McCullough 
knowledge := man do identify od existent done
knowledge haspart list of proposition

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Vladimir Rykov 
  To: Richard H. McCullough ; m.spork@qut.edu.au ; www-rdf-interest@w3.org 
  Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:51 AM
  Subject: RE: RDF vocabulary definitions - typology



      Mr McCullough - you can find this book by its name. I forgotten the author. Not earlier then 80s.

     To the matter. 

     I explain how I used his idea. I had a corpus of texts classified into genres etc. It was outer classification. I took these texts and counted with computer their innner properties (the number of pronouns, etc) and I got a cluster classification tree. Then I compared it with outer classification. It was very informative. The French guy said that only this final classification is typology.

  The Author wrote (he is arche...ist) - "we dig remnants  ..." Actually they did the same. They try to classify what they digged in various places as if they do not know their origin. Then they compare their classification with outer classification - from which places the pieces of pots, jewelry were found. It was really remarkable and brought them lots of info.

   I did understand him - but I am not sure you'll understand my awful English.

   Vladimir Rykov
  PhD in Computational Linguistics
  rykov.narod.ru

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Richard H. McCullough [mailto:rhm@cdepot.net]
    Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:10 PM
    To: Vladimir Rykov; m.spork@qut.edu.au; www-rdf-interest@w3.org
    Subject: Re: RDF vocabulary definitions - typology


    I would have to hear some more details to be sure, but it sounds like the book is talking about intensive (properties of entities) and extensive (entities) classifications.  These two aspects of entities are really inseparable, so if you try to separate them you are apt to get nonsensical results.
    If this "typology" is something else, I'd like to hear more about it.
    ============ 
    Dick McCullough 
    knowledge := man do identify od existent done
    knowledge haspart list of proposition

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Vladimir Rykov 
      To: m.spork@qut.edu.au ; Richard H. McCullough ; www-rdf-interest@w3.org 
      Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:57 PM
      Subject: RE: RDF vocabulary definitions - typology


      If I may intrude into wise discussion.

        I read Russian translation of French book - Theoretical Archeology.

        The guy said there - there are two kinds of classifications - based on
      inner and outer features of objects. Then we compare/match these
      classifications. The result is a kind of super-classification called
      typology.

        Vladimir Rykov

       rykov.narod.ru
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