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Re: Challenge? Using RDF in "real" surroundings

From: Dave Reynolds <der@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:18:32 +0100
Message-ID: <3D120E68.316ACA07@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
To: Steffen Staab <staab@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de>
CC: Jeen Broekstra <jeen.broekstra@aidministrator.nl>, www-rdf-interest@w3.org

A couple more for the list would be the PlanetOnto and ScholOnto projects at KMI
http://kmi.open.ac.uk/projects/currentprojects.html

They have quite a rich collection of ontologies many of which are particularly
relevant to educational institution web sites. Their work is more metadata on
the content and content relationships than the web page structure but they do
develop practical web site tools as part of their work (e.g. D3E). 

Dave

Steffen Staab wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> concerning the general problem you could take a look at all the people
> who use ontologies and metadata
> in order to construct and maintain websites, e.g.
> 
> projects:
>     Araneus
>     Strudel
>     Seal
>     Cohse
> and others
> 
> people
>     Crampes + Ranwez
> 
> (search at http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/)
> 
> concerning the inheritance: just use some reasoning engine
> 
> Steffen
> 
> Jeen Broekstra wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > A friend of mine, who is website developer at a large educational
> > institution, recently contacted me with a problem, and the question if
> > RDF could help him out.
> >
> > The situation is as follows: they have a large website describing the
> > institution and the different courses that you can follow there. The
> > site is reasonably easy HTML so normal keyword search engines (like
> > Google) have relatively little trouble with it.
> >
> > However, he would like to add more metadata to the domain, and
> > specifically, he wants to be able to:
> >
> > - "inherit" the metadata description from the more general pages
> >   to the more specific ones.
> > - annotate more specifically: which page is the parent of which
> >   other page, whether a printable version of a page exists,
> >   pointing to indexes, etc.
> >
> > Now, my first reaction was that most of this is possible in RDF, but
> > the next question then becomes: How? For the specific annotations, I
> > would think an ontology is necessary. Is there an ontology out there
> > that is used for the purposes described above? What kind of tools
> > would you expect to be helpful for him? Also: what would the tangible
> > benefits of doing this be for him and the institution? He is pursuing
> > this out of an interest in easier maintenance and better navigation
> > possibilities, can we help? Adding the metadata is one thing, but is
> > there something out there which will make use of it?
> >
> > I realize the problem is rather vaguely described, but the reason  I
> > post it here is that I think it is a real challenge to see not only
> > whether we as a community can come up with some ideas on how to tackle
> > this problem using RDF-based solutions, but if the things RDF can do
> > right now are compatible with the things people like my friend seem to
> > expect of it... One more thing I should point out is that he doesn't
> > expect this to be a very heavy development project (they come in
> > shapes and sizes of course, but he has limited resources).
> >
> > Now, I don't expect you to do his homework for him, but some insights
> > would be appreciated :)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jeen
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