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RE: Language ? Conflict of interest?

From: W.M. Jaworski <wmj@gen-strategies.com>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:26:00 -0400
To: "Danny Ayers" <danny@panlanka.net>, "David Allsopp" <dallsopp@signal.dera.gov.uk>, <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>
Message-ID: <NFBBJIDECLLIIGDBKNEJCEJACBAA.wmj@gen-strategies.com>
In this real world we should not ignore conflict of interest which is quite
often present in all colors and shapes.

Case 1. Common interest - cooperation
Both parties focus on discovery and enhancement of COMMON language

Case 2. Conflict of interest - antagonism
Both parties involved in a war of "wits"

Best

WMJ

-----Original Message-----
From: www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org
[mailto:www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Danny Ayers
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 12:31 PM
To: David Allsopp; www-rdf-interest@w3.org
Subject: RE: Language?



>The patterns of "My name is Jim", "My cat is small" match, presumably,
>but that won't allow us to work out the meaning of the symbols
>"name","Jim","cat" and "small" - our foreign counterpart could be
>talking about literally _anything_.  What does "Zr foo ga bar" mean?  We
>can only try to deduce valid ways of putting the (meaningless) symbols
>together, i.e. grammar.

I'll leave proofs to the logicians, but 1. I'm fairly sure that it would be
impossible to match everything within a finite amount of time, 2. I am
pretty sure that as long as most sentences written were valid (and the
languages are both describing the same world as interpreted by the same kind
of agents) then communication could take place.

Take a pair of limited vocabularies -
We know the terms : 'the cat', 'sat on' 'the mat' - call them a, b, c
Zog knows :  '$', '@', '!' (Zog), call them A, B, C

we might say abc, we might just say a, we might even occasionally say cab,
but mostly we'll say abc.
Now Zog says @!$ a lot, but rarely $!@ - does this suggest anything?
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