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Where did frames come from, then? (was RE: Mentographs a go-go)

From: Meltsner, Kenneth <Kenneth.Meltsner@ca.com>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:24:05 -0400
Message-ID: <EB4CB5E863FBD311A1F3009027AA4E2E065C4940@usilms02.ca.com>
To: "R.V.Guha" <guha@alpiri.com>, www-rdf-interest@w3.org
Side issue: Did Peirce influence Minsky?

I can certainly see the differences between frames (in the various interpretations since Minsky) and conceptual maps, but there are also similarities.

Ken Meltsner


-----Original Message-----
From: R.V.Guha [mailto:guha@alpiri.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:57 AM
To: www-rdf-interest@w3.org
Subject: Re: Mentographs a go-go


With all due respect to Charles Sanders Pierce & Shank's work,
the RDF data model was in large part inspired by a combination
of Minsky's frames and traditional predicate logic (with arity
restrictions).

guha

Seth Russell wrote:

> From: "Danny Ayers" <danny@panlanka.net>
>
> > Look what you've done now Seth, even TimBL's at it :
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/2001/04/roadmap/
>
> Well, to be honest, I doubt that my efforts have even come on TimBl's radar
> screen.   There has been a long tradition of representing knowledge with
> labeled directed graphs starting (perhaps) with Charles Sanders Pierce. I
> think John Sowa was the first to have popularized them, see [1].  But for
> the record my mentography was heavily influenced not by Sowa's work, but my
> Shank's Conceptual Dependency diagrams and was developed around 1978 when I
> started working on CyberMind [2].   I discovered Sowa's and Pierce's work
> two decades later around the time I published [3].
>
> [1] http://www.bestweb.net/~sowa/cg/
> [2] http://robustai.net/mentography/cmap_vs_sem.gif
> [3] http://robustai.net/ai/symknow.htm
>
> Seth
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