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RE: What to do about namespace derived URI refs... (long)

From: <Patrick.Stickler@nokia.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:15:32 +0300
Message-ID: <6D1A8E7871B9D211B3B00008C7490AA50795875B@treis03nok>
To: seth@robustai.net, www-rdf-interest@w3.org, Patrick.Stickler@nokia.com, sean@mysterylights.com
Cc: phayes@ai.uwf.edu

Love it. 

I propose a mantra for SW folks to chant each morning:

   name != location != name != location != name ...



> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Seth Russell [mailto:seth@robustai.net]
> Sent: 08 June, 2001 02:00
> To: www-rdf-interest@w3.org; Patrick.Stickler@nokia.com; Sean 
> B. Palmer
> Cc: pat hayes
> Subject: Re: What to do about namespace derived URI refs... (long)
> Here is a hypothetical (it never happened) dialogue between 
> me and TimBl
> Tim:  A URI is just a name.
> Seth:  Fine, what does it name?
> Tim: Resources.
> Seth: Ok.
> Tim: A subset of a URI is a URL.
> Seth:  Fine, How is is distinguished from URI.
> Tim: An application can use a  URL to retrieve a bit stream.
> Seth:  Well does it name the bit stream?
> Tim:  Yes a URI is a name.
> Seth: Am I a Resource.
> Tim: Yes.
> Seth: Why?
> Tim: Because you have identiy and a Resource is anything that we can
> associate a identity to.
> Seth: Ok, so I can associate a URI with myself and internet 
> applications can
> use it for my name.
> Tim: Yes
> Seth: Tim, can I be retrieved on the Internte.
> Tim: I suspect not.
> Seth:  Then I should not have a URL to identify myself.
> Tim: *shuffels his feet a bit*  Well you could use a URL with 
> a fragment on
> the end because I've been telling people that kind of thing does not
> identify the document that is retrieved.
> Seth:  But that URL might actually retrieve something if I an 
> application
> used it.
> Tim: *starts to look out the window... he's rather be playing 
> softball*  ...
> uhh if you put a fragment with an id (not an anchor) it 
> doesnt have to name
> what you retrieve.
> Seth:  How can an internet application distinguish between what the
> URI#fragment retrieves and what it names?
> Tim:  .....
> Seth:  .. Tim? ..... now where'd he go ...
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