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RE: Dispositions of Dave Beckett's comments

From: Roland Schwaenzl <Roland.Schwaenzl@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:52:39 +0200 (MET DST)
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To: aswartz@swartzfam.com, rdaniel@interwoven.com, dave.beckett@bristol.ac.uk, www-rdf-interest@w3.org, wagnerh@oclc.org
Cc: spec-comments@prismstandard.org

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> Ron,
> Tod Matola, Eric Miller and I created an XSLT stylesheet (part of the EOR
> project) that translates RDF into XHTML and maintains a specific order for
> DC elements.  

XML ordering is a coding artefact - it does not survive an RDF processor. 
An XSLT rewrite is an XML operation - XSLT by definition is not required to respect (semantic) RDF 
relations.
In the case at hand an XSLT rewrite PRISM: creator=S,creator=B |--> creator{rdf:Seq:1=S,2=B} would show the intended semantics 
(or done the other way: dumb the semantics). 


rs




Let me know if this would be of any interest or value to you.
> 
> Regards,
> Harry Wagner
> DCMI/OCLC Office of Research
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Swartz [mailto:aswartz@swartzfam.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 8:55 AM
> To: rdaniel@interwoven.com; Dave Beckett; RDF Interest
> Cc: 'spec-comments'
> Subject: Re: Dispositions of Dave Beckett's comments
> 
> 
> Ron Daniel <rdaniel@interwoven.com> wrote:
> 
> >> 4.8.3
> >>   Note that although a sequence of <dc:creator> elements in an
> >>   RDF/XML file implicitly defines a sequence (in the XML world), RDF
> >>   parsers have no obligation to preserve that ordering, unlike in an
> >>   rdf:Seq.  So the PRISM RDF profile requires that the ordering be
> >>   preseved.
> > 
> > Yes, good catch. I have added that suggestion to the profile.
> > 
> > (Now I will have to add some stuff to my implementation to
> > keep track of that ordering.)
> 
> Wait a sec... Are you explicitly adding something to PRISM that will make it
> incompatible will the rest of the RDF world? I may not understand the
> comment, and apologize if this is the case, but if I read it correctly,
> PRISM files using this special addition will be essentially unusable with a
> generic RDF processor. This would be a Bad Thing.
> 
> -- 
> [ Aaron Swartz | me@aaronsw.com | http://www.aaronsw.com ]
> 
> 
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